Must-watch: William Llewellyn discusses the evolving anabolic steroid black market!

[Atomini]

Did not know where exactly to post this, so I am posting this in the Q&A as well as the lounge. This is a must-see for EVERYONE here.

http://youtu.be/0LL7bL4F9G4

[Rwy]

I knew I didnt want to watch this. I was out of the game a long time so when I came back I had no idea what a ugl was and that it was near impossible to get real hgh. I get most of my test form my dr but when I want to up dose I only want to use the pharm so I will substitute with a ugl product to accumulate a cucle dose of my pharm grade.

My one friend who was supposed start with me still cannot except the idea of ugl and refuses too. I am a pretty sharp guy but when you really think about what most of us do with ugls its pretty ****ing stupid. Order shit online and inject it in your body.

[Atomini]

I just find it incredible that today, 80% of the product available is UGL grade gear (discluding a small chunk of that 80% being counterfeits).

What's even more incredible is that during the 1960s until the late 1980s, UNDERGROUND LABS FOR THE MOST PART NEVER EXISTED! Nearly 100% of the gear people were using back during that time period was nearly all pharmaceutical grade. What a time to have lived in...

[Rwy]

idk sometimes I have a terrible picture in my head of what labs look like


some huge dirty lab with naked people in chemical suits being guarded by russians with ak47's lol

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Very insightful atomini. Learned a lot! (Maybe more than i wanted to know!)

[BBJT200]

The laws criminalizing steroid use cause more harm than good.

It's really unfortunate that users are forced to use UGL's to get their product. People will use regardless of the laws, and because everything is hush hush, kids are MORE likely to screw their bodies up due to lack of quality information about gear.

[dan991]

Laws for "usage" really don't get enforced. If anyone is on roids... its the half the police force. I've never heard of anyone getting pinched for using; its typically the dealer that gets nailed. If you keep to yourself and inject at home- the chances of getting knocked are pretty slim. I mean hell- if the DEA wanted to they could get a subpoena to get all our IP addresses and show up in your living room. They have bigger fish to fry.... and I wouldn't doubt if the day came that AAS were "overlooked" like marijuana is treated now in some states. Reality is- society is turning into a "you wanna kill yourself go ahead" point of view towards everything.

I can tell you this much- I'd stop TRT if my script didn't come from CVS. I'm not gonna put some shit from China made by some dude in a basement into my body... fuk that.

[wmaousley]

Great Video, thank you for posting this. Now maybe some of the new users will see this and start using PG AAS vs UGL

[krugerr]

Great find there buddy - I wasnt aware of how bad some of the UGL could be. Im glad I have PG available!

[warmouth]

Great. But now it is your turn to get these videos rolling out. Do you have any idea how popular and how many views they would get from someone who actually knows the stuff! Thanks Atomini!

[Alinjr]

Good Post.

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I can tell you this much- I'd stop TRT if my script didn't come from CVS. I'm not gonna put some shit from China made by some dude in a basement into my body... fuk that.

u must be on test enanthate because every CVS where i live has been on manufacturer back order for test cyp since feb 2012! i have to get mine at a compounding pharmacy and get reimbursed ..

[warmouth]

It definitely freaks me out. The heavy metals more than anything. We just dont really know what is going on in those labs, but the majority of us have no other choice. Thats why the idendification forum is a great idea here. Scary stuff.