Test E, Tren E cycle advice.

**Babboon** · 01-10-2013, 11:04 PM

Hey everyone! Newly registered to the site, but have been researching and reading threads for a while. I'm fairly new to gear. I've just got off my first cycle of Clen , and I'm just getting things set up to take things up a bit after my second Clen cycle.
-Background on myself. 21, 5'9, 200 lbs. Deadly diet.

After a lot of looking around, this is the cycle I've come up with that I think best suites me.
12 Week Cycle
Test E (wks 1-12) 500 mg wk
Tren E (wks 3-12) 250 mg wk
Aromasin (12 wks) 12.5 mg eod
Caber (12 wks and into PCT) .25 mg every 3 days
Also going to find a TUDCA to be safe.
PCT: (wks 14-18)
Toremifene Citate
-Now I've come across 3 different common dosage strategies (100,80,60,40 / 90,60,60,30 / 60,60,30,30)
Any thoughts? ^

Hopefully haven't left anything out. Thanks for any advise. Cheers!

**RoadToHuge** · 01-10-2013, 11:11 PM

I would run test at 150mg and tren at 400-500. Otherwise looks good. Needs clomid doe.

**Honkey_Kong** · 01-10-2013, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by RoadToHuge

I would run test at 150mg and tren at 400-500. Otherwise looks good. Needs clomid doe.

You're suggesting to a guy who has never run AAS before to run tren ?

OP, you're still a little young. Consider putting off cycling gear for a couple years at least. For your first steroid cycle (and clen isn't steroids ), you shouldn't run anything except test. There are plenty of explanations on this forum of why you shouldn't, I suggest you use the search button (it might even be a sticky). It'd be in your interest from starting right now, to go to Google University and study gear for at least an entire year before you even think about touching any steroid or prohormone. The more you learn, the less likely you're going to fvck your body up doing something stupid (hopefully you'll read why it isn't good for somebody your age to run gear).

**Soar** · 01-10-2013, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

You're suggesting to a guy who has never run AAS before to run tren ?

OP, you're still a little young. Consider putting off cycling gear for a couple years at least. For your first steroid cycle (and clen isn't steroids), you shouldn't run anything except test. There are plenty of explanations on this forum of why you shouldn't, I suggest you use the search button (it might even be a sticky). It'd be in your interest from starting right now, to go to Google University and study gear for at least an entire year before you even think about touching any steroid or prohormone. The more you learn, the less likely you're going to fvck your body up doing something stupid (hopefully you'll read why it isn't good for somebody your age to run gear).

^this.

**gymfu** · 01-10-2013, 11:32 PM

And learn how to diet! Go to the nutrition section here.

**songdog** · 01-11-2013, 02:29 AM

Well if you been here reading you didnt learn much! 1 you are to young 2 tren isnt a beginner compound.Plz tell me wat you have learned while you were here.And we will go from there.Beacuse right now all I will tell you is hit the diet section and learn how to eat.Good luck Bro!

**MuscleInk** · 01-11-2013, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

Well if you been here reading you didnt learn much! 1 you are to young 2 tren isnt a beginner compound.Plz tell me wat you have learned while you were here.And we will go from there.Beacuse right now all I will tell you is hit the diet section and learn how to eat.Good luck Bro!

^^^Exactly! Do they actually hear the stuff they are saying????

**RoadToHuge** · 01-12-2013, 03:48 PM

Missed that he is 21.....

**MickeyKnox** · 01-12-2013, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by honkey_kong

you're suggesting to a guy who has never run aas before to run tren ?

Op, you're still a little young. Consider putting off cycling gear for a couple years at least. For your first steroid cycle (and clen isn't steroids), you shouldn't run anything except test. There are plenty of explanations on this forum of why you shouldn't, i suggest you use the search button (it might even be a sticky). It'd be in your interest from starting right now, to go to google university and study gear for at least an entire year before you even think about touching any steroid or prohormone. The more you learn, the less likely you're going to fvck your body up doing something stupid (hopefully you'll read why it isn't good for somebody your age to run gear).

x3. ^^

**ma_fighter** · 01-12-2013, 04:46 PM

#1. 21 = Way too young to be doing AAS
#2. Tren is not something you wanna mess around with in your first cycle
#3. Tren E is not what you wanna use for your first Tren cycle, once you get that far, either
#4. 5'9, 200lbs, but how high BF%? if you're lean then that's pretty good
#5. 500mg test per week on its own is plenty for your first cycle, BUT....
#6. 21 = Way too young to be doing AAS
#7. Once someone is ready to do Trenbolone , and no matter what you may think my friend youre not, then a HRT dose of test is enough, and you start the Test and Tren at the same time.
#8. 21 = Way too young to be doing AAS

All of that stuff aside, if you were to ignore the fact that youre too young and this would have been your first (I really, REALLY hope you wait) thats a *fairly* thought out cycle.
Most newbs wouldnt have known of, or thought about, the AI and the Caber.. or the PCT for that matter. So all hope is not lost, I believe you're smart enough to take heed to what the guys here have been saying

Good luck

/Maf

**TheSpoonyBard** · 01-12-2013, 05:01 PM

I've got a bit of experience now, and I'm pretty fearless when it comes to shooting my ass full of unverified UGL oils, but even after getting a few cycles under my belt, Tren is not a compound I'd fool with even now. I'm 32 years old and on TRT but I see no reason for running Tren. Not at all for novice AAS users. Plus, with Tren being a 19 Nor and legit dopamine agonists being fairly hard to find from UGL's you're asking for prolactin troubles(aka Deca /Tren dick). Then there's Tren cough and other small things like tasting the Tren sometimes that will make most novice users think they are dying. Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test. Stay away for now IMO. See Atomini's Tren sticky at the top of the page too! Good info.