Do Injections always get sore or only sore during at first .. I"m just starting Trt

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-2013, 01:04 AM

still sore after 8 days after first measly 150 mg injection of cypionate in upper right quadrant of butt cheek.

I"m about due for next injection i guess.. might go up to like 400mg which will be enough to maybe lifts and get benefits over just TRT therapy due to T levels at 270.

At what levels would I make likely need anti estrogen and no ball shrinkage drug/ hcg ?

At what levels would I get some mild bodybuilding effect when I lift weights 5x a week with a good diet?

Do I need to take like 1000 mg to 1500mg's a week to get my muscles to recover within a day after workouts or would less give do that in not a day but maybe day and a half?

thanks for advice.. mike

**Gaspaco** · 01-11-2013, 01:25 AM

Hey!

Soreness depends on your pinning technique, your muscle has to be relaxed, slowly push the oil in (10seconds for 1ml) and massage well after the spot!!!

200mg and more/week you should ad AI! Adex 0.25mg eod or aromasin 12.5mg eod.

If your diet and workout are good, you don need more than 500mg to see a great results from it!

Keep it up!

**Soar** · 01-11-2013, 01:31 AM

10sec a ml is even pushing it. I have absolutely no pip pinning 1ml a min. It's not a race and its worth it to take your time.

**pokermonster29** · 01-11-2013, 01:35 AM

So when doing butt cheeks point needle straight down right?

and be relaxed .. and maybe not much soreness.

Am I very sore cuz this is my first injection ever? maybe she did not massage well after for me?

**Soar** · 01-11-2013, 01:39 AM

You should try your quad, you can see what you're doing the entire time and hold the needle still with one hand. Being your first needle it might hurt, keep in mind it's virgin muscle. You can find all the proper ways to inject here. ( Spotinjections.com )
Keep in mind you don't have to use the injection spot like a dart board. Slow and steady

As Gasp said you'll need to run a AI for estrogen. The best dose for starter to get the effects of bodybuilding is around 500mg/week. The HCG will help with testicular atrophy at any level of test use, doesn't matter if its 200g/week or 2000mg/week. Your body will shut down natural testosterone .