Masteron/anavar/hcg Cycle

[Universal1]

Want some input on cycle.

2nd Cycle ever.

300-400mg masteron wk
20-40mg anavar/ day
hcg

180lbs looking to gain a few/harden.

Diet and lifting is on point.
Pictures are in another post

1st cycle i did last year..

Prop eod
deca 2x/ wk
dbol
nolva/clomid
First cycle gained 20-30 lbs, kept about 15

[Lunk1]

uH...YOU ARE RUNNNIG THIS WITH PROP...TEST, RIGHt???

[Universal1]

pics first cycle

[Universal1]

havent decided yet waiting on some input and what i can get my hands on

[Tron3219]

I'd def run some form of test with this...unless u want the possibilities of having an inactive wee-wee

[Universal1]

yea that comes before all muscles. what u recommend

[Tron3219]

yea that comes before all muscles. what u recommend

Hahahahahaha any form of test, depending on the amounts of other compounds and goals, it could be a relatively low dose if you don't want a whole lot of size. I'm sure lunk can chime in here with dosage advice as he is a bit more experienced then I.

[Tron3219]

Hahahahahaha any form of test, depending on the amounts of other compounds and goals, it could be a relatively low dose if you don't want a whole lot of size. I'm sure lunk can chime in here with dosage advice as he is a bit more experienced then I.

But personally I'd run about 500/wk of test, cuz the amounts of the other compounds are on the lower side

[Tron3219]

Another thing I noticed...first cycle u gained 25-30 and kept 15....no mention of an AI. Use an AI and u will cut out a lot of that water weight. It'd be more like gain 20- keep 15, with a good pct.

[Universal1]

yea between the dbol and appetite, i had a lot of water weight. 500/wk cyp, prop, ent make any difference. prop eod gets annoying, but if im doing masteron i could mix compounds no?

[Lunk1]

your 1at cycle you ran multiple compounds including a 19nor...your second cycle you plan to run 2 reletivly weak adrogens and NO test! HMMMMM!

Why don't you post your stats and goals her my man!

[Tron3219]

yea between the dbol and appetite, i had a lot of water weight. 500/wk cyp, prop, ent make any difference. prop eod gets annoying, but if im doing masteron i could mix compounds no?

Yeah it doesn't matter the ester attached to the test. You just have to replace your natural test with exo test, because mast and var will still shut down your hpta and your body will stop producing natty test. And yes you could mix the prop with the mast, but for 525mg of prop that's 3/4cc (providing ur prop is 100mg/ml) plus whatever your mast is dosed at. That's going to be 1.5 cc or more. And since your going to b pinning eod your going to need a few injection sights and the higher volume limits the injection sights, but that is user preference. I know of people that inject over 1cc in their delt but when I inject over 1cc in my delt, I feel like there's a knot in there and is uncomfortable. Just things to take into consideration.

[Universal1]

This is all due to availabilty. thats why im asking advice. last year i was able to get those compounds. this year i can get these
26 yrs, 5'8'' 180 lbs
goal- like i said above get a lil bigger harder before i go on vacation, could prob do without juice, but im already set on doing

[Tron3219]

This is all due to availabilty. thats why im asking advice. last year i was able to get those compounds. this year i can get these
26 yrs, 5'8'' 180 lbs
goal- like i said above get a lil bigger harder before i go on vacation, could prob do without juice, but im already set on doing

Agreed, you prolly could do it without the juice.

And lunk, the last 5 words is why I skipped the hub bub lecture, and decided to try and give him some advice without the diet and should revert back to a test only cycle till he learns more....cuz well he's gonna do it regardless....

But for a piece of mind, u should learn more and get ur diet in check...

[Lunk1]

Well...you really need testosterone. If it's unavailable then scratch this idea! Period!

My suggestion would be back to the basics with a solid Test cycle...perhaps some Var tossed in the end!

Honestly I ma afraid your just shooting shyt in your body cause they are steroids, without even having an understanding of the basics and each compound!

[Universal1]

i dont have mast in hands yet, but pretty sure my guy said 100mg/ml. Ive pinned delts, hammis, gluts, im going to have to rotate around. delts like you said, gotta be easy on

[Tron3219]

i dont have mast in hands yet, but pretty sure my guy said 100mg/ml. Ive pinned delts, hammis, gluts, im going to have to rotate around. delts like you said, gotta be easy on

If you don't have the mast in hand, save ur money, and like lunk said, test and possibly var at the end.

[Lunk1]

Here is some homework...stop just sticking yourself willy nilly without knowleage!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e&goto=newpost

[Universal1]

then i gotta get a test. I have my doctors monitoring not to worry. appreciate it though. I ask for help because you guys know

[Universal1]

Thank you

[Lunk1]

Your doctors are monitering your use of Anabolic steroids???

[Universal1]

chiropractor, yea. No real doctor in right mind will monitor juice. Only thing real doctor tested was test levels last year

[Lunk1]

You said Doctor lol....Honestly I believe a Chiro has the same code of ethics as a Doc...I can't imagine one assisting in this life style and even more crazy I can't imagine trusting a chiro with help running steroids lol!

Stick with the Test man...the statement "test is best" is true believe me!

[Turkish Juicer]

pics first cycle

Concentrate on your chest more than the surrounding muscle groups (delts, arms, lats) in this cycle because from what I see, your chest to rest ratio is not good at all.

[Universal1]

Same code, i agree with, but also a trusted family friend who would rather monitor, then me do it on my own. he has some experience with HGH and others. But all the compounds out today hes not farmiliar with every single one.

NY- anybody will assist in this lifestyle lol

Will look for a test.

[Universal1]

Always pushing to gain in my chest. Varying weight/workouts. I hear you though. Might be genetic, well see

[Turkish Juicer]

Always pushing to gain in my chest. Varying weight/workouts. I hear you though. Might be genetic, well see

If you are 100% sure that you always do your best to develop your chest through all necessary means and outcome is yet an under-developed look, then you may call it the genetics.

This is precisely why I advised you to concentrate on your chest more than other surrounding muscle groups since one big valid argument behind cycling is that AAS allows you to go further your limits that cannot be achieved naturally.

[Universal1]

Whats the number one workout for you in gains, in your opinion

my number one chest workout in my opionion is close to this...

warm up- dips 4x25 (sometimes i also finish with weighted dips)
4 sets- incline- barbell/ dumbells (i alternate) i finish at 120lbs dumbells 4-6times
3-4 sets- flat- bench/ dumbells(alternate) finish at 315 3times, or 120lb dumbells 4-6times
3 sets- flys (flat/incline)
3- decline- barbell/dumbells
pec dec/cables till failure

[Turkish Juicer]

Your chest workout seems strict but remember, when you start with chest dips 4x25 and sometimes finish it with weight, this is beyond a typical warm-up. I would certainly call this a per-exhausting technique.

You may also want to modify your rep format by switching to lower weights and higher reps at some point. 8-12 reps as opposed to 4-6 reps.

[Universal1]

No the weighted dips i do at the end of the workout, not end of warm up, my fault. yea i try to swtich it up throughout life, but like you said my chest is lacking so recently i stay to higher weight low reps.

[Universal1]

Scratched masteron, got Ent200mg.
By the way this is my 3rd cycle, my mistake.

First cycle ever i ran test only.

[Lunk1]

Scratched masteron, got Ent200mg.
By the way this is my 3rd cycle, my mistake.

First cycle ever i ran test only.

So what are your plans now? Test and var?

[Universal1]

Yea, with HCG, have nolva if i get sensitive

[fontazya]

anavar dosage is too low IMO

[Lunk1]

1-12 Test E 500mg EW
10-13 Var 60-80mg ED
14-17 Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50
HCG and AI through cycle till pct

[Universal1]

If im going away end of March, (9 weeks from now), I know its probably smarter to wait till after for no interuptions, whats your opinion?

[MuscleInk]

If im going away end of March, (9 weeks from now), I know its probably smarter to wait till after for no interuptions, whats your opinion?

You just answered your own question.

[Universal1]

Thanks. 60-80mg/ed no more than that tho right. guys i know push higher than that.

[Lunk1]

Thanks. 60-80mg/ed no more than that tho right. guys i know push higher than that.

I never run over 100. 60-80 is a good start...you can adjust up if the pumps are not too bad!

[MuscleInk]

I never run over 100. 60-80 is a good start...you can adjust up if the pumps are not too bad!

^^^Ditto. 100 max. 50-80 range is a good starting point.