Prop and Var Cycle

**Kidd636** · 01-12-2013, 02:46 PM

Hey guys. been doing research and I see a lotttt of people love the Prop/Var cycle

This would be my 6th cycle.

I don't want to run 4-5 different things anymore, just need a little help in the gym ya know.

I am going to run

Week 1-10 60mg Anavar ED
Week 1-10 100mg Prop EOD

I have learned there is little to no water retention from this depending on my diet.

Is there anything I can also add to this to help out? Nolvadex ? Etc?

Let me know

**ma_fighter** · 01-12-2013, 03:01 PM

If it is truly your 6th cycle (and at age 24 thats generally not a good thing at all) you should already know what to "add to help this out": an AI

The Var will not make you hold water, but the test will, when it converts to estrogen via aromatase. Hence the AI

Also, I would avoid doing any oral for 10weeks, even Anavar , unless you have your liver checked regularly throughout the cycle.

What are your previous cycles, as you say you "dont want to run 4-5 different things"?
Also, what are your stats?
What's your planned PCT?

Cheers
/Maf

**Kidd636** · 01-12-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by ma_fighter

If it is truly your 6th cycle (and at age 24 thats generally not a good thing at all) you should already know what to "add to help this out": an AI

The Var will not make you hold water, but the test will, when it converts to estrogen via aromatase. Hence the AI

Also, I would avoid doing any oral for 10weeks, even Anavar , unless you have your liver checked regularly throughout the cycle.

What are your previous cycles, as you say you "dont want to run 4-5 different things"?
Also, what are your stats?
What's your planned PCT?

Cheers
/Maf

Thanks for the response.

I am 25 actually, idk why it says im 24. Most of my cycles we're what "my friends said" and I've gotten only mediocre results. I am here to learn and find out more and more info as I go.

I meant 1-8 Var, not 10.

Any info on a PCT would be great right now. From your experience, I am reading up on it right now as I type this.

Stats
25 yrs old
5'8" 210lbs
15-18% BF? Just coming off a horrible stretch of dieting, getting back into hard the past 2 months. dropping weight and getting muscle mass back.

**Turkish Juicer** · 01-12-2013, 03:09 PM

I would save my money and only run Test Prop at 100mg ED instead, with good estrogen management of course.

Ten weeks of Anavar at 60mg ED won't make a drastic difference.

**Kidd636** · 01-12-2013, 03:11 PM

Test only cycle? Really? You think so

**Kidd636** · 01-12-2013, 03:30 PM

My PCT will look like this..

Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

**Turkish Juicer** · 01-13-2013, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kidd636

Test only cycle? Really? You think so

My first 4 cycles were Test only cycles and I got great results from every and each.

Looking back, I wish I had continued with a couple more Test only cycles before I started to stack because now I realize I wasn't really in need of secondary compounds: Test only cycles gave me strength, endurance, muscular growth and a libido that was through the roof. What else does a juicer need in his first couple of years of AAS use, anyway?

Test only cycles are simple yet effective, they are cost effective too.

If you know you respond well to Test and know how to manage estrogen related sides, then go ahead and run Test Prop alone at a higher dose. It is also a safer cycle as opposed to the one that involves Anavar .

**stpete** · 01-13-2013, 01:37 AM

Again, agree w/TJ. People underestimate Test. There's a reason we love it so much.

**t-dogg** · 01-13-2013, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

Ten weeks of Anavar at 60mg ED won't make a drastic difference.

Why do you say this?

**Turkish Juicer** · 01-13-2013, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Why do you say this?

Because it is true?

**t-dogg** · 01-13-2013, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

Because it is true?

My last cycle with anavar at 60mgs for 6wks was great. This is why I ask.

**Turkish Juicer** · 01-13-2013, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

My last cycle with anavar at 60mgs for 6wks was great. This is why I ask.

I have also had good results with Anavar in the past. As a matter of fact, I hardly know anyone who hasn't with Anavar, as long as their stuff was legit and dosing was optimal for them.

Nonetheless, I stand by my initial statement that ''it won't make a drastic difference.'' People often tend to believe in the idea of a magic pill, and in most cases, this magic pill comes forward as Anavar for various reasons. We both know this is not the case.

**t-dogg** · 01-13-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

I have also had good results with Anavar in the past. As a matter of fact, I hardly know anyone who hasn't with Anavar, as long as their stuff was legit and dosing was optimal for them.

Nonetheless, I stand by my initial statement that ''it won't make a drastic difference.'' People often tend to believe in the idea of a magic pill, and in most cases, this magic pill comes forward as Anavar for various reasons. We both know this is not the case.

Gotcha. Just was curious. I love anavar as i was shocked how well it worked for me.

BUT when im on cycle my diet is 99% on point with training so i would guess i fall in the higher level of it.