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    Teach me HCG and B12

    Since I am pretty firm in extending out and bridging out my cycle to a total of six months. I thought HCG would probably be a pretty good idea.

    I have no idea on how it is mixed, how often, how much and where to inject. Some assistance on this would be great.

    Also, if I do start the HCG I wanted to throw in some B12. Same thing, how when and where?


    Only thing I know so far is that HCG needs to be mixed with BAC water which I also have no idea where to find. Also is HCG and B12 sold through many places? I seen the B12 on Ar-r and my usual guy has HCG(but it seems kinda expensive).

    Is B Complex for cattle the same as human grade? Just thinking here since the farm grade costs straight near nothing.
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    You have to refrigerate your HCG and it lasts in the ballpark of 30 days, so it's kind of expensive in that sense.
    I've been wondering the same thing about B12, and i'm pretty sure it's safe because it's still sterile. A lot of veterinary drugs are human equivalents.

    I'd wait for a more thorough response before making your decision though

    AR-R has bac water as an option with peptides. You can also get it other places online as it's legal...just a sterile dilutant.

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    bacstat water is just .9%BA combined with deionized water. Combine the two, filter through a .22 micron whatman into a sealed vial. Basic shit. Otherwise buy off amazon or from a research chem store.

    Vet grade B12 is fine. thats what most people use tbqh

    HCG is harder to get than most AAS imho. Many of the overseas pharmas carry HCG, but most of the domestics (which I prefer) will not carry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid
    bacstat water is just .9%BA combined with deionized water. Combine the two, filter through a .22 micron whatman into a sealed vial. Basic shit. Otherwise buy off amazon or from a research chem store.

    Vet grade B12 is fine. thats what most people use tbqh

    HCG is harder to get than most AAS imho. Many of the overseas pharmas carry HCG, but most of the domestics (which I prefer) will not carry it.
    It's distilled water not de ionized water

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    bacstat water is just .9%BA combined with deionized water. Combine the two, filter through a .22 micron whatman into a sealed vial. Basic shit. Otherwise buy off amazon or from a research chem store.

    Vet grade B12 is fine. thats what most people use tbqh

    HCG is harder to get than most AAS imho. Many of the overseas pharmas carry HCG, but most of the domestics (which I prefer) will not carry it.
    What's the purpose of the filter? Shouldn't it already be clear of impurities if it's meant for injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post
    It's distilled water not de ionized water
    same thing lmao. In the chemical engineering world we call it deionized. Doesn't matter if you deionize it through distillation or other means.

    @JT. It isn't completely sterile until you filter it. You could probably get away with not filtering, but I definitely won't be one to take that risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    same thing lmao. In the chemical engineering world we call it deionized. Doesn't matter if you deionize it through distillation or other means.

    @JT. It isn't completely sterile until you filter it. You could probably get away with not filtering, but I definitely won't be one to take that risk.
    Huh. Good to know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid

    same thing lmao. In the chemical engineering world we call it deionized. Doesn't matter if you deionize it through distillation or other means.

    @JT. It isn't completely sterile until you filter it. You could probably get away with not filtering, but I definitely won't be one to take that risk.
    Distillation is a process where water is boiled and then the steam that rises from the boiling water is then cooled (condensed). The condensed water (called condensate) is largely free of any "impurities" (chemicals, etc.) that were present in the water before it was distilled. If water is distilled, and re-distilled a few more times, it is considered very pure water.

    Deionized water is water that was probably passed through several filters that have a slight electrical charge in the filter particles. This "charge" attracts ions (charged particles dissolved in the water).

    You will see its not the same thing and completely different

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    So, where do I go with all of this?

    One, what is a fair price on HCG?

    2, how do I mix this shit? How much of it do I take and how often?

    Same shit for the b12

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    Last edited by warlord_wang; 01-13-2013 at 07:03 PM. Reason: should of never said that

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    Bump, i'd love to know.

    And I rather have a real answer from someone knowledgeable than interweb garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warlord_wang
    you can get it for cheap like 5-8 dollars for 5000ui
    Where? That's super cheap.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    So, where do I go with all of this?

    One, what is a fair price on HCG?

    2, how do I mix this shit? How much of it do I take and how often?

    Same shit for the b12
    As far as I am aware. The rules state no price discussion allowed.

    Mix it was bac water. Search how much bac water to mix it with to make dosing easier, that info is not at the top of my head.



    I've had experience with B12, it's pretty straight forward. But it differs from person to person. B12 usually dosed 1000 mcg/mL. Typically, you want to inject 1mL of b12 once or twice a week, but some people on this site like to inject 1 mL of b12 everyday when on cycle to help counter the sides. It helps them eat more and give them more energy and well being.

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    Anyone else wanna fill in the rest?

    The idea of mixing shit just does not settle well.

    Also, how often what do you all shoot?

    I just want to add b12 and HCG, but do it properly and not just starting more shots that I have no idea about.

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