Switching from test p to test e

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 04:21 AM

Hi guys, I'm 5weeks into my cycle of 100mg prop eod and I have ml left. I went to my guy and he has ran out of prop and won't be getting anymore for a while so he gave me test e 250/ml he said just to use the prop and then once that's gone just start the test e at 1ml mon and thurs but obviously it's a longer ester I've been researching and people are saying it takes 2 weeks to kick in but I'm wondering if my levels are already up would it take time? So do I just taper the prop or start enanthate and cut the prop until the end so that I can start the pct two days after last prop jab? What would you guys do? Thanks,

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 04:26 AM

must switch from prop to enanthate for traveling. please help!

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-13-2013, 05:57 AM

Your levels are up but it'll take a few weeks for the Test E to build up in your system. Half life of Prop's like 3 days so I you don't do both E and Prop your levels will drop. Take both E and Prop for a couple of weeks and drop the Prop.

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 06:51 AM

Ahh right cheers mate any Idea how much to use if I was using 100mg eod ?

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by dougal

Ahh right cheers mate any Idea how much to use if I was using 100mg eod ?

Prop that is

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by dougal

Prop that is

500 weekly

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 08:37 AM

Run the test e along side the prop b4 you run out so its got time to build up

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Run the test e along side the prop b4 you run out so its got time to build up

He's only got 1 ml left I believe... He gonna have some peaks and valleys now for sure

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

He's only got 1 ml left I believe... He gonna have some peaks and valleys now for sure

So he has it will take a good few weeks to get the test e built up.

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

He's only got 1 ml left I believe... He gonna have some peaks and valleys now for sure

I got 8ml left of prop so I'm still doing 1ml prop eod and then 1ml enanthate on a Monday and Thursday? Until I run out of prop then continue with test e until I run out so 5 weeks then wait 14 days after last injection to start pct? Thanks again

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by dougal

I got 8ml left of prop so I'm still doing 1ml prop eod and then 1ml enanthate on a Monday and Thursday? Until I run out of prop then continue with test e until I run out so 5 weeks then wait 14 days after last injection to start pct? Thanks again

Ok....

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Ok....

Is that right?

**dougal** · 01-13-2013, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Ok....

Is that right yh?

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 09:33 AM

Why not front load the crap out of the test e so there's a huge build up to get levels there?

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by dougal

I got 8ml left of prop so I'm still doing 1ml prop eod and then 1ml enanthate on a Monday and Thursday? Until I run out of prop then continue with test e until I run out so 5 weeks then wait 14 days after last injection to start pct? Thanks again

Continue prop as scheduled until finished and start shooting 1cc test e Monday morn and Thursday night regardless of if u shoot prop on that day or not.

They should end and start within a reasonable time to keep levels as stable as possible IMO

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:39 AM

Or you could do that ^^^^^ what panntastic said

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Why not front load the crap out of the test e so there's a huge build up to get levels there?

I hate front loading... Seems like when it kicks it will be a huge increase in levels and most guys say don't front load

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

I hate front loading... Seems like when it kicks it will be a huge increase in levels and most guys say don't front load

With longer esters I see no harm in front loading.
I can't see the point with short esters but long esters can't see a problem

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

With longer esters I see no harm in front loading.
I can't see the point with short esters but long esters can't see a problem

Well if I shoot 500mg test 2 x weekly for 2 weeks and then shoot 250 test weekly for the remaining 10 weeks, by week 3 I would be experiencing 1g test effect and then my leeks would be very high and then by the time the frontload passes I'd probably feel like I had low test for the rest of the time... No?

I have no exp with this I am only asking based on thoughts. I run same dose throughout

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

Well if I shoot 500mg test 2 x weekly for 2 weeks and then shoot 250 test weekly for the remaining 10 weeks, by week 3 I would be experiencing 1g test effect and then my leeks would be very high and then by the time the frontload passes I'd probably feel like I had low test for the rest of the time... No?

I have no exp with this I am only asking based on thoughts. I run same dose throughout

Give me a few minutes I'm trying to find the link explaining front loading I've read it here somewhere today

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 10:00 AM

This should help clear some things up for you

When will my "GEAR" kick in & frontloading explained...NOW READ IT!

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

This should help clear some things up for you

When will my "GEAR" kick in & frontloading explained...NOW READ IT!

I humbly retract my previous statement. The math is sound. So why don't people always recommend front loading?

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

I humbly retract my previous statement. The math is sound. So why don't people always recommend front loading?

It's really a choice thing to be honest
Some use dbol for first 3-5 weeks etc and by time the long esters are showing their effects they remove orals from the cycle.

Glad I could share this with you