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    BEGINNER Questions!!!

    Hello everyone i am 21 and have worked out for 3+ years

    2 days ago i took my first injection of testosterone 100mg (1ml/cc)

    I only plan on using test for a short period of time (1 yr TOPS!)

    Now before i continue on i would like to ask some experienced members a few questions so that i receive the best results in the near future.

    1. Should i be taking 1ml/cc inj. once a week or daily inj. of lesser amounts?
    2. When should i be taking an anti-estrogen product? (before shot? after shot? once a week? every day?) Any recommended AE products? Can these products be bought at any nutrition/supplement selling business in my area?
    3. If i inject in my gluteus medius one day, can i inject in my thigh or bicep the next?
    4. The needle im using is 1ml/cc - 12.77mm needle point - 29 gauge, takes 4 or 5 mins to suck up a full 1ml worth of test, should i be using a bigger needle? (180 lbs, 5'11")
    5. Any other recommendations or pointers please let me know i want the best results out of this!

    Hopefully my questions can be answered!

    I appreciate any help at all!



    -choss
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    Get ready....

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    Oh dear. Not to flame but you need to stop and discontinue use.


    At your age even tho you think you're all grown up, you're going to cause more damage down the line then you think. Your body hasn't finished growing and you could risk having limp dick for the rest of your life. And that's putting it softly (no pun intended!)...


    Also what he said. ^
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    I think you should not inject again at all.

    Main reason...ur 21...still a bit young
    Secondary reason...if u took 100mg of test, it's most likely prop which should b injected every other day to keep levels stable, or if its test e, that's WAY to low and will prolly cause ur levels to actually b lower the natural. And this means you don't know enough to cycle yet

    Save ur money and learn cuz this cycles gonna end up pointless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219
    I think you should not inject again at all.

    Main reason...ur 21...still a bit young
    Secondary reason...if u took 100mg of test, it's most likely prop which should b injected every other day to keep levels stable, or if its test e, that's WAY to low and will prolly cause ur levels to actually b lower the natural. And this means you don't know enough to cycle yet

    Save ur money and learn cuz this cycles gonna end up pointless
    As said above.....you started taking steroids and have no idea what you're doing. So many young guys get their heads filled with ideas from a friend or some guy at the gym and have no idea how to use steroids or the real dangers that come with them.

    The questions you asked are very basic and you should have asked and had these questions answered before you began anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    Oh dear. Not to flame but you need to stop and discontinue use.


    At your age even tho you think you're all grown up, you're going to cause more damage down the line then you think. Your body hasn't finished growing and you could risk having limp dick for the rest of your life. And that's putting it softly (no pun intended!)...


    Also what he said. ^
    Alright then if that is the case then i can stop... its been 2 days since first inj and i haven't taken anymore and it was Test prop



    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    I think you should not inject again at all.

    Main reason...ur 21...still a bit young
    Secondary reason...if u took 100mg of test, it's most likely prop which should b injected every other day to keep levels stable, or if its test e, that's WAY to low and will prolly cause ur levels to actually b lower the natural. And this means you don't know enough to cycle yet

    Save ur money and learn cuz this cycles gonna end up pointless
    Yes it was test prop. I have 2 bottles of it that i will use sometime in the oncoming years i guess then. Can anyone answer some questions then at least so that i have knowledge for the future. I am good at taking advice especially when 2 people tell me the same thing so i am not going to continue on if i am not of proper age for this substance.

    If i were of age what amount of test prop should i be taking every day to keep levels stable? And when should anti-estrogen products be taken? Like i said, this is just so that i know for when the time comes... I've worked out for over 3 years without any substances other than protein, bcaa, creatine, and a nice diet. I'm not afraid to work out without testosterone usage for another few years...

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    In for advise...

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    I just want to say bravo for heeding advice, not many do. Prop is generally administered every other day around 500mg a week for beginners. And it depends on ur ai. There are a lot of stickies u should read. I'm not gonna link them cuz I'm on my phone. I'm sure someone will that has this readily available. But look for the young and the steroids , and most common beginner cycles. My advise is read, read, read...ask questions about what u don't understand. Learn how these things work, not just what they do, and also the consequences

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguel700707 View Post
    In for advise...
    ^ this guys a troll for one don't take his advice.

    Your AI should be used the first day you inject till the day you finish. Test prop you're going to have to do EOD (every other day) injections aiming for a total of 400-600mg a week. Most go for 500mg. You'll also want to consider using HCG while on cycle to combat testicular atrophy. And a proper PCT (post cycle therapy ) to get your boys working again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    You'll also want to consider using HCG while on cycle to combat testicular atrophy. And a proper PCT (post cycle therapy) to get your boys working again.

    Is this necessary if you were to only cycle for a month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choss

    Is this necessary if you were to only cycle for a month?
    A 4 week cycle is pointless unless u really know what ur doing and are familiar with short burst cycles and diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by choss View Post
    Is this necessary if you were to only cycle for a month?
    hCG is recommended any time you introduce enough exogenous testosterone that promotes testicular atrophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choss View Post
    Hello everyone i am 21 and have worked out for 3+ years 21 is too young, your Endocrine system is still evolving, and you can easily cause permanent damage which will have you on drugs for the rest of your life, till the day you die.

    2 days ago i took my first injection of testosterone 100mg (1ml/cc) 100mg/ml is generally Prop (which you confirmed) and need to be taken every other day. 400-600mg per week total.

    I only plan on using test for a short period of time (1 yr TOPS!) I'm HOPING you don't mean 1 year "on", you'd get about 2 cycles out of a year. Your plan to only do AAS for a short time tells me you wanna use it as a shortcut to get to a certain point, and without knowing your stats (height, weight, bodyfat) it's impossible to give a 100% accurate statement here, but I'm prepared to bet that what you need right now is learning how to EAT and TRAIN properly, not AAS. And that once you get those two down, you'll gain just as much muscles naturally, as you would have doing a proper cycle without that knowledge. The difference is that you'll be able to maintain, and increase upon, those gains if you know how to eat and train.

    Now before i continue on i would like to ask some experienced members a few questions so that i receive the best results in the near future.

    1. Should i be taking 1ml/cc inj. once a week or daily inj. of lesser amounts?100mg/week will not do d*ck for you, and prop needs to be shot at least EOD
    2. When should i be taking an anti-estrogen product? (before shot? after shot? once a week? every day?) Any recommended AE products? Can these products be bought at any nutrition/supplement selling business in my area?You should always use an AI when on a cycle of test. And no, you cant get a proper AI over the counter.
    3. If i inject in my gluteus medius one day, can i inject in my thigh or bicep the next?Yes, you not only can, but should rotate incection spots.
    4. The needle im using is 1ml/cc - 12.77mm needle point - 29 gauge, takes 4 or 5 mins to suck up a full 1ml worth of test, should i be using a bigger needle? (180 lbs, 5'11") Yup
    5. Any other recommendations or pointers please let me know i want the best results out of this!As stated before, don't do Test or any other AAS for another 4-5 years at least. And seeing that you only wanted to use 'em for a short while anyways, I'd be willing to bet that you'll have reached your goal naturally in that time

    -choss
    Props for listening to the guys here mate! Too many just disregard the advice given, and end up in allot of trouble.
    You're too young to be doing AAS safely
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    Good luck!
    /Maf

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    ....too young

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_fighter View Post
    Props for listening to the guys here mate! Too many just disregard the advice given, and end up in allot of trouble.
    You're too young to be doing AAS safely
    Answers in bold

    Good luck!
    /Maf
    Thank you for answering my questions!

    i have stopped inj. altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choss View Post
    Thank you for answering my questions! You are very welcome mate

    i have stopped inj. altogether.
    Stick around here, read up on Diet and Training, and whatever catches your interest! A couple of years down the line, you'll be glad you did!
    This place's got a great bunch of guys and gals who are happy to share their knowledge and advice.

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