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    If I start a TRT dose of test, will I have to always be on it?

    I've been wondering about this, but I always had forgotten to ask you all here about it. I'm 34 and right now I am very limited in how much lifting I can do. I have an appointment with a back doctor for bulging and torn discs but i'm not going to get anymore of the cortisone shots. I will see what he suggests. I also had finally decided to have my shoulder fixed and am in the process of looking for the best surgeon in Md. to do the procedure.

    At MuscleInc's suggestion I was going to just go with a 500 mg per week dose of just test. However, since I have made my choice to get my surgery done it woud likely be a waste since I can't work most of the large muscle groups.

    I felt maybe a 250 mg per week dose of test might be best since healing up and not being able to move my arm for several months will undoubtedly cause a decline in my natural test levels, which are in the mid 600's right now.

    My main question is if I start a 250 mg per week dose, would I likely have to keep that up for good? or would I just cycle on and off just like any other test cycle?

    Also I had asked before, but no one responded if during recovery I should run a theraputic dose of deca to help speed up the healing from the surgery? I don't want it to get big, but I need to heal as fast as possible so I can get back to work. We're having a baby in July so I need to get back to making money asap.

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    250 mg/wk is a bit more than a TRT dose. Your recovery will depend on how long your natural production is shut down, longer shut down = hard recovery usually. As far as using Deca . to help heal from surgery, I know it's been done before but I just don't think it's a good idea to use a compound that promotes / forces rapid muscle growth when you're try to slowly & thoroughly heal.

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    TRT is a life long choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    TRT is a life long choice.
    Yeah, that makes sense... but at what point should I decide to make that choice? If i'm 34, but still in the mid 600's ... is it worth it at that point, or is it better to hold off as long as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    250 mg/wk is a bit more than a TRT dose. Your recovery will depend on how long your natural production is shut down, longer shut down = hard recovery usually. As far as using Deca. to help heal from surgery, I know it's been done before but I just don't think it's a good idea to use a compound that promotes / forces rapid muscle growth when you're try to slowly & thoroughly heal.
    I had considered that healing to fast could cause an issue with something in there that needs to heal more slowly. So would just 250 mg's of test be helpful to keep my levels on the higher end of normal and to make sure that shut down isn't an issue?

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    I think if you're gonna go the TRT route, you should keep it around the 150 mg/wk range to avoid conversion of excess Test. to Estrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    I think if you're gonna go the TRT route, you should keep it around the 150 mg/wk range to avoid conversion of excess Test. to Estrogen.
    Really? Just 150 huh? I thought that might be to low. I don't have any idea though... which is why i'm here asking lol. Don't get me wrong... i'd like to get some growth out of it, but not a lot. I don't want to gain massive amounts of weight... what I want to do could be done naturally i'm sure... i'm just thinking i'll be 35 this year so i've been losing 1-2% of test per year for 5 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingfan30 View Post
    Really? Just 150 huh? I thought that might be to low. I don't have any idea though... which is why i'm here asking lol. Don't get me wrong... i'd like to get some growth out of it, but not a lot. I don't want to gain massive amounts of weight... what I want to do could be done naturally i'm sure... i'm just thinking i'll be 35 this year so i've been losing 1-2% of test per year for 5 years now.
    150 - 180 mg/wk is at the high end of the average natural testosterone production of a 15 - 20 year old.

    And you're not gonna get any growth if you can't eat & train. I wouldn't worry about growth while healing, just get healed up proper & then worry about hitting the weights again. However, you can still eat clean to avoid unwanted weight gain & an overall better quality of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    150 - 180 mg/wk is at the high end of the average natural testosterone production of a 15 - 20 year old.

    And you're not gonna get any growth if you can't eat & train. I wouldn't worry about growth while healing, just get healed up proper & then worry about hitting the weights again. However, you can still eat clean to avoid unwanted weight gain & an overall better quality of life.
    yeah, that's sort of what i'd like to go for. So at what point would I have to worry about using an AI and such? 200-250 mg's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxingfan30 View Post
    yeah, that's sort of what i'd like to go for. So at what point would I have to worry about using an AI and such? 200-250 mg's?
    Within 24 hours of your first injection, excess Test. will start converting to Estrogen at a 200 - 250 mg dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    Within 24 hours of your first injection, excess Test. will start converting to Estrogen at a 200 - 250 mg dose.
    ahh ok, so at 150 that shouldn't be a concern then?

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    150 mg/wk should not aromatize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    150 mg/wk should not aromatize.
    ok good... thanks for the info man, I appreciate it!

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    I'll shoot for 150 (no pun intended lol)

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