Is this typical results from clen?

[Sick_beard]

After nearly 1 month of ordering RUI clen, I finally received the bottle last week without any measuring device. I had to go running between pharmacies looking for the right syringe, and trust me it's not a pleasant experience especially when a nosy pharmacists wants to know exactly why.

Anyway, eventually I got myself an insulin syringe and the next day in the morning first thing on empty stomach, I measure 60mcg and into my mouth. 3 hours later, not even a tingle. I took another 20mcg, still nothing. To make a long story short, by the end of the day I topped off @ 160mcg and guess what? still nothing!! 160mcg 1st dose for a 1st time clen user should be something to remember... but not with RUI clen. It was something to remember for all the wrong reasons.

Next day in the morning to put all doubts to rest, I took 200mcg of their crappy clen, and didn't feel a god damn thing. I was sure at this point it's apple juice they've sold me, not clen. I gave the rest to my cat and wrote to their customer service. This is what they had to say in reply:

"We cannot advise any type of direction for the use of our products. You may browse the forum boards for more information. We apologize for the inconvenience. Have a good day"

[BBJT200]

Sure, their customer service is friendly, but there's no guarantee on anything since it's a research chem...not intended for human use.
I have a bottle of liquid stane that is bad from them. All of my other products from them have been awesome, so...idk.

I spoke with customer service and they haven't been willing to do anything about it. so...probably not gonna order from them again.

[warmouth]

Man you are starting alot of threads. Maybe write them down during the day and then ask them all at once with a title like this: "Questions". It would be so much easier to get help when wedont have to go back and forth to see why this isnt working, or that is doing this, or why take this or should I take this.

But to give you advice on clen and AR in general. Clen is not a stimulant like you may be thinking. It isnt like adderall or any amphetamines. You have to be very careful, especially if you are new to the compound. Clen works without you "feeling" it. You wont get a buzz or sped up. It works on different receptors. What clen does is raise your core temp up and increases your heart rate. You can check your temperature and heart rate to see if it is working. Once again, you will not feel this like you would amphetamines. BE CAREFUL! Start with 20mcgs 2x a day, then ramp up after a few days to 40, then 60, 80, and NO MORE than 120mcgs. Alot of people, myself included, hates clen. For me it was hell. Heart rate was ridiculously high. Didnt like it a bit.

Now on AR. The most potent clen I ever tried came from AR. Ihave tried "pharma grade" from over seas andit was nothing compared to AR. They have along history of very happy customers. They are a site sponsor here and because of them, we have the freedom to discuss issues we have and get answers to our questions from more knowledgeable members than ourselves. AR has always sent me outstanding product, and until I get a bad batch myself of anything, I will continue to use them.

JT, be careful on commenting openly please. If you have a problem, please contact AR, and if that doesnt work, maybe a PM to a mod. I dont know the protocol. I do know business, as I own my own, and I know that no matter what you do, there are always a few customers you cant please, no matter how good a service it is.

I hope this has been helpful. Good luck.

[BBJT200]

JT, be careful on commenting openly please. If you have a problem, please contact AR, and if that doesnt work, maybe a PM to a mod. I dont know the protocol. I do know business, as I own my own, and I know that no matter what you do, there are always a few customers you cant please, no matter how good a service it is.

I hope this has been helpful. Good luck.

I did contact AR-R. Sent a few emails back and forth, and apparently they have had no issues with that batch.
I actually have two bottles from the same batch. It's pretty obvious when an A.I. is bunk when you change bottles, using the same product, and it stops working.

In the end, I am left with crap and am sore about it. If AR-R cared, they would try to fix the situation for a customer who has spent 1.5k on research chems in 6 months.

If AR-R's business practices have changed, other people need to know.

[BBJT200]

As for the clen, Warmouth has a good point.

Have you checked your HR or core temp?

[warmouth]

I did contact AR-R. Sent a few emails back and forth, and apparently they have had no issues with that batch.
I actually have two bottles from the same batch. It's pretty obvious when an A.I. is bunk when you change bottles, using the same product, and it stops working.

In the end, I am left with crap and am sore about it. If AR-R cared, they would try to fix the situation for a customer who has spent 1.5k on research chems in 6 months.

If AR-R's business practices have changed, other people need to know.

Man I am trying to help you out, not bash you. I am saying that they are the reason we can get together on here and have discussions. No reason to jeopardize what we have here over purchasing research chems. If you want something that is certain, there are thousands of online pharmacies that will sell you any ancillary you want and they are 100% pharma grade. Everyone should know there is a risk with any research chem, as they are not regulated by the FDA or any other outside agency. They are not intended for human use anyways. I have never experienced anything bad from them, but I am not saying it isnt possible. I am just trying to keep you in good graces by not smearing one of our biggest sponsors in the pubic forum for all too see.

[BBJT200]

Man I am trying to help you out, not bash you. I am saying that they are the reason we can get together on here and have discussions. No reason to jeopardize what we have here over purchasing research chems. If you want something that is certain, there are thousands of online pharmacies that will sell you any ancillary you want and they are 100% pharma grade. Everyone should know there is a risk with any research chem, as they are not regulated by the FDA or any other outside agency. They are not intended for human use anyways. I have never experienced anything bad from them, but I am not saying it isnt possible. I am just trying to keep you in good graces by not smearing one of our biggest sponsors in the pubic forum for all too see.

point taken. they are a site sponsor, all of my other products have been great. I'm just pissed that they're unwilling to do anything about it. posts edited.

[warmouth]

point taken. they are a site sponsor, all of my other products have been great. I'm just pissed that they're unwilling to do anything about it. posts edited.

I promise you, they will make it up to you one way or another. You will end up getting something from them that will make you forget about this issue. Tried thier cialis? If not, order it and you'll forget anything negative about them. Promise

[MuscleInk]

I promise you, they will make it up to you one way or another. You will end up getting something from them that will make you forget about this issue. Tried thier cialis? If not, order it and you'll forget anything negative about them. Promise

Handled well Warmouth. Thanks brother.

[Sick_beard]

Man you are starting alot of threads. Maybe write them down during the day and then ask them all at once with a title like this: "Questions". It would be so much easier to get help when wedont have to go back and forth to see why this isnt working, or that is doing this, or why take this or should I take this.

But to give you advice on clen and AR in general. Clen is not a stimulant like you may be thinking. It isnt like adderall or any amphetamines. You have to be very careful, especially if you are new to the compound. Clen works without you "feeling" it. You wont get a buzz or sped up. It works on different receptors. What clen does is raise your core temp up and increases your heart rate. You can check your temperature and heart rate to see if it is working. Once again, you will not feel this like you would amphetamines. BE CAREFUL! Start with 20mcgs 2x a day, then ramp up after a few days to 40, then 60, 80, and NO MORE than 120mcgs. Alot of people, myself included, hates clen. For me it was hell. Heart rate was ridiculously high. Didnt like it a bit.

Now on AR. The most potent clen I ever tried came from AR. Ihave tried "pharma grade" from over seas andit was nothing compared to AR. They have along history of very happy customers. They are a site sponsor here and because of them, we have the freedom to discuss issues we have and get answers to our questions from more knowledgeable members than ourselves. AR has always sent me outstanding product, and until I get a bad batch myself of anything, I will continue to use them.

JT, be careful on commenting openly please. If you have a problem, please contact AR, and if that doesnt work, maybe a PM to a mod. I dont know the protocol. I do know business, as I own my own, and I know that no matter what you do, there are always a few customers you cant please, no matter how good a service it is.

I hope this has been helpful. Good luck.

I've only posted 2 threads in total today. one about my cycle and this one...

If you wanna read my post again, I took 200mcg single dose 1st time using clen, and no sides or any other perceivable change in my body whatsoever. It was stupid, I agree, but I was 100% sure at that point that the clen is bunk.

I'm really glad you own your own business. As for me, I'm a student, which means I paid a day's worth of a shitty minimum wage job and basically got ripped off. I tried emailing them, PMing RUI on every board I could find before going public about it, and no compensation was offered.

[Alinjr]

Oh wow. I'll leave this one alone. The words have already been spoken... lol

[Juced_porkchop]

so your the guy from ology that has never used clen and expects sides to be what shows its working?
I dont know homany times on howmany boards people need to tell you IT DOES NOT GET YOU HIGH! NO BUZZ!
I think you just dont know what you are doing or were expecting more/different effects.

here is a quote from us:

"Quote Originally Posted by juced_porkchop View Post
yeah it just shows me hes never used this before...

YOU:
No I haven't, but when I took my 1st 25mg of ephedrine I felt like I was on cocaine. Now compare that to 80mcg of clen... "


Sorry man but this just shows you dont know what your doing or what to expect or how to check if clen is working, NOT ar-r's fault....

If you where someone with any clen exp then I might double think on it...

hope you give it a few days and take your TEMP. but i hope you took be BEFORE hand too. if not stop clen for 1-2 weeks tame temp to show normal temp, then take clen for a weeka nd take temp again.... this is a better judge then "dude I got no buzz or bad side effects" and bashing a well known sponsor.

[Rv8G30]

so your the guy from ology that has never used clen and expects sides to be what shows its working?
I dont know homany times on howmany boards people need to tell you IT DOES NOT GET YOU HIGH! NO BUZZ!
I think you just dont know what you are doing or were expecting more/different effects.

here is a quote from us:

"Quote Originally Posted by juced_porkchop View Post
yeah it just shows me hes never used this before...

YOU:
No I haven't, but when I took my 1st 25mg of ephedrine I felt like I was on cocaine. Now compare that to 80mcg of clen... "


Sorry man but this just shows you dont know what your doing or what to expect or how to check if clen is working, NOT ar-r's fault....

If you where someone with any clen exp then I might double think on it...

hope you give it a few days and take your TEMP. but i hope you took be BEFORE hand too. if not stop clen for 1-2 weeks tame temp to show normal temp, then take clen for a weeka nd take temp again.... this is a better judge then "dude I got no buzz or bad side effects" and bashing a well known sponsor.

Come on bro. No dissrespect intended but the dude said he never used clen before and took 160mcg. If he dosed that correctly, then theres no way in hell he could not know, right? I started at 40 or 60 mcg cant remember, and I noticed its effects within about 30 minutes. Heart rate increase is extremely noticeable. If I started with 160mcg I'd be dead for sure...Plus the hand shakes? Not sure if everyone gets that one but I sure did. Could hardly even text properly. The feeling of being on Clen is less than desirable.

[evander87]

Strange but the only time I "feel" clen is the first day of 120mcg. I get the hand shakes. Most of the time I just "feel" like the fog of sleep has cleared. And yes I do see great results in bodyfat loss.

I know a lot of people feel like shit and hate clen but I really love the stuff. To each their own.

[t-dogg]

What was your body temperature before and after taking Clen? Also resting heart rate before/after? Thats how you know its real. Not by side effects.

[qscgugcsq]

I feel absolutly no bad side effect on clen except for my heartbeat and blood pressure. I also buyed from ar-r and their stuff are awesome. I loved clen and I will for sure order from them again soon.

You should check your Heart rate on it to be sure that's bunk or not.

[BBJT200]

Well, I may have jumped the gun on my post about AR-R. Perhaps they saw my comment above, perhaps not.

In the end, I just recieved a refund credit to my account. Happy guy here.
Thank you AR-R.

[Granovich]

i hate clen . i used it 2 days from ar-r at 40mcg and i felt like shit
fever and hand shaking and sweating... i dropped it
clen sux
nothing beats natural diet + 2 sessions cardio a day

[gixxerboy1]

Come on bro. No dissrespect intended but the dude said he never used clen before and took 160mcg. If he dosed that correctly, then theres no way in hell he could not know, right? I started at 40 or 60 mcg cant remember, and I noticed its effects within about 30 minutes. Heart rate increase is extremely noticeable. If I started with 160mcg I'd be dead for sure...Plus the hand shakes? Not sure if everyone gets that one but I sure did. Could hardly even text properly. The feeling of being on Clen is less than desirable.

yes, he could not get side effects. Going by side effects isnt how you dose something.

This OP is an idiot plain and simple