1st cycle: Testoviron / Nolva / Ldex

[shark127]

Hello everyone,
My first post, have been lurking for a while, getting intel.

I've decided to start my first cycle of Testoviron / Nolva (tamox) / Ldex (arimidex).

Stats:
Age: almost 23
Weight: 175 (185 is my max)
Height: 5'9"
BF: ~10%
Diet: high protein / med carb / low fat
Have been hitting the gym for about 6 years.
Not able to include self pics due to recognizable markings.

Here's how I'm planning to cycle:
wk 1-2 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED. (1 week)
wk 2-13 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED, Testoviron 500mg/wk. (12 weeks)
wk 13-15 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED. (2 weeks)
PCT (2 weeks after last Testoviron injection):
Day 1. Clomid 300mg, Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.
Day 2-30. Clomid 100mg, Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.
Day 31-37. Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.

Here's a couple of shots of the Testoviron I'm going to use. As far as i know its from Malta made in a UGL. I have red mixed reviews about it, but some experienced members recommend it, and i trust my source.

Planning to do 2 shots/wk of Testoviron, 250mg each, since it has a long chain ester test-e, and a short test-prop.

Question: can you draw an AI and a SERM into the same syringe?
Please give me some feedback regarding my cycle plan.

Thank you,
-shark

[The Bear 79]

6'-9" & 175 lbs?!?!? Holy sh!t man.............eat something.

Steroids are going to be a waste of time & money until you know how to eat.

I know you think the solution to being too skinny is steroids, but it's not, you're just gonna lose everything you gain once you come off cycle because you don't know how to eat to sustain lean mass.

[The Bear 79]

Would you like some help putting together a diet that will allow you to prove yourself to yourself?

[A_Grant]

^ That.

Plus youre not even 23, it's too soon to consider steroid use. Give it a few years of training and dieting, you can clearly add a lot of mass natty.

[The Bear 79]

I was hoping to detour him without having to get into the age debate................but I agree none the less.......

[MuscleInk]

Hello everyone,
My first post, have been lurking for a while, getting intel.

I've decided to start my first cycle of Testoviron / Nolva (tamox) / Ldex (arimidex).

Stats:
Age: almost 23
Weight: 175 (185 is my max)
Height: 6'9"
BF: ~10%
Diet: high protein / med carb / low fat
Have been hitting the gym for about 6 years.
Not able to include self pics due to recognizable markings.

Here's how I'm planning to cycle:
wk 1-2 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED. (1 week)
wk 2-13 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED, Testoviron 500mg/wk. (12 weeks)
wk 13-15 Nolva 10mg ED, Ldex 0.25mg ED. (2 weeks)
PCT (2 weeks after last Testoviron injection):
Day 1. Clomid 300mg, Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.
Day 2-30. Clomid 100mg, Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.
Day 31-37. Nolva 20mg, Ldex 0.25mg.

Here's a couple of shots of the Testoviron I'm going to use. As far as i know its from Malta made in a UGL. I have red mixed reviews about it, but some experienced members recommend it, and i trust my source.
<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132200"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132201"/>
Planning to do 2 shots/wk of Testoviron, 250mg each, since it has a long chain ester test-e, and a short test-prop.

Question: can you draw an AI and a SERM into the same syringe?
Please give me some feedback regarding my cycle plan.

Thank you,
-shark

Unfortunately you won't find a lot of support for this plan at 22 years of age. Have you had any blood work done to test your natural testosterone levels? It's not worth shutting your HTPA down when all you really need is to eat and train to gain.

You don't need to run a SERM and AI together
.25mg of adex daily is too much
No mention of HCG?
PCT is tamoxifen and clomiphene alone

[MuscleInk]

Listen to Bear!!! This man is a champ when it comes to eating. I haven't met anyone who could eat better than this guy!

[shark127]

I'm usually maintaining a steady 185, lost some pounds over the break, but gonna get back up to it in the next week or two. Plus the line of work i'm in makes it more difficult to gain/sustain mass. When it comes to nutrients I usually don't have a problem, just a fast catabolism i guess. Nevertheless, I'd appreciate any tips.

Yes i have done my total and free testosterone level tests, waiting on results now. I'll shut down my plan if the total is outside 270-1070 ng/dL, and free 50-210 pg/mL.

Edit: my apologies, I intended to put down 5'9" for my height instead of 6'9". No I'm not a giant. I never liked imperial system...

[The Bear 79]

Post your current daily intake, include calories, carbs, proteins, fats & times of each meal, & we'll do some tweaking.

[shark127]

Got my results, my free and total test levels are fine.
So is .2mg of adex alone enough through the cycle?
For PCT:
wk 1-6 Tamox .20mg/ED + Clomid .25mg/ED
Do i need to do HCG throughout the cycle? or adding 250iu/ED in PCT for 3 weeks is enough?

Thanks,
-shark

[The Bear 79]

So have you done any research pertaining to the potential effects of AAS on the undeveloped Endocrine & HPTA?

[shark127]

Yes I have. In addition to the intel on the net, I've been talking to Life Science / kinesiology instructors about similar topics.
So how does my potential cycle/PCT look? I figured testoviron would not be too extreme for my first cycle. I'm in no rush, so any info/critique you guys provide me i will look closely at it.

thanks,
-shark

[The Bear 79]

I wont give cycle advice or approval / critique to anyone under the age of 25.

Good luck to you.

[MickeyKnox]

On top of what everyone else has said, and i agree....your cycle is a gong show.


The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

[MuscleInk]

I wont give cycle advice or approval / critique to anyone under the age of 25.

Good luck to you.

^^^One of the best comments and advice right there!