T3 cyles

[t-dogg]

Ive never used this before and Im becoming more and more interested in it dew to cost over gw501516.


1) So my first question is for people who have used this did you stop taking it cold turkey or did you ramp down, Ive read both ways.

2) How long did you run your cyle? Im assuming from what I can tell you can use it for months straight along with keto.

3) While on a cycle with steroids did you run clen or albuterol with it and why? Again I see some both ways.

[austinite]

1. I never ramp down.
2. As long as I need to. Until satisfied.
3. Would never touch clen again. My body believes it's poison.

I love T3. I shed more fat on T3 than anything else. Not even Tren 's nutrient partitioning could stand next to T3 for me.

[t-dogg]

1. I never ramp down.

2. As long as I need to. Until satisfied.

3. Would never touch clen again. My body believes it's poison.

what kind of doses do you run?

Did you run keto after week two?

Did you only run it while on gear? Meaning did you also run albuterol with it?

[austinite]

125 mcg ed.

no keto for me.

Would never ever run T3 without being on gear. No albuterol.

[t-dogg]

125 mcg ed.

no keto for me.

Would never ever run T3 without being on gear. No albuterol.

What was the typical bf% lost if you had to guess?

[austinite]

Recently I grew to 15%, started T3 mid/late December, now I am under 13. My body reacts very well to T3, it's like magic for me. I can eat like shit and cut my cardio in half and still lose weight. It does however, slow down after a while. When I was on for 3 months, my last month progress was much slower than the 1st two. I use it while bulking

[t-dogg]

Think im just about sold in it now.

[nvrtd]

100-150 mcg is more than enough.
no ramp down.
i dont get bad sides apart from hectic sweat, can run upto anywhere from 7-9 months if u really want

love it, beats clen by a mile i personally think, i couldnt stand shaking hands with my job so clen is out the picture

[FONZY007]

How long will it take for your thyroid to rebound after discontinue?

[likelifting]

100-150 mcg is more than enough.
no ramp down.
i dont get bad sides apart from hectic sweat, can run upto anywhere from 7-9 months if u really want

love it, beats clen by a mile i personally think, i couldnt stand shaking hands with my job so clen is out the picture

When did you take it? AM or PM? Any stim effects that would stop a person from taking before bed?

[nvrtd]

When did you take it? AM or PM? Any stim effects that would stop a person from taking before bed?

its got a fairly short half life, and i read that people were taking it more than once a day, i split mine into 2 dosages, first 50 mcg in the am before work and the second 50 mcg when i get home from work (45mins-1hr) before my workout

havent personally tried it before bed, i was thinking of making it 3 dosages a day and having some before bed, but havent got around to doing it, im keen to try it aswell though

[Atomini]

Let me just clarify some things about T3 because T3 is one of those compounds with a lot of mysticism, rumor, and lies surrounding it:

- It is unnecessary to ramp up or down your T3 dose. I don't do it and never have. Only reason why some people ramp up is to get used to the increasing heat output, and gauge any possible muscle loss through slow increases in dose, etc. but if you can deal with this and know your effective dose, its no problem to immediately start at the full dose.

- T3 can be run for as long as you want without risking damage to your thyroid (contrary to the stupid myth that has been circulating for over 2 decades now).

- T3 possesses a half-life of 2.5 days. It is unnecessary to split up T3 doses throughout the day. Take it all at once in the morning and then forget about it.

- Ketotifen use is only for beta-2 agonists such as Clenbuterol and Albuterol. It will do nothing and has nothing to do with T3.

- Ignore everything you've ever heard or read about the stupid lie/rumor about how T3 use will fvck your thyroid up. NO IT DOESN'T. Your thyroid gland operates just like any other endocrine gland in the body. In fact, the thyroid is actually probably the stupidest endocrine gland in the body. It takes SO long for it to catch on to what's going on before it starts to reduce its output. One study was conducted in which several patients who were on T3 for THIRTY YEARS were promptly taken off of it, because they were MISDIAGNOSED(!!!) as being hypothyroid 30 years ago when they really weren't. Cessation of exogenous T3 resulted in every test subject's thyroid output return to normal levels within 3 months or something. And remember, this is people on it for half a lifetime. Several weeks of use in the bodybuilding world would have very little effect.

- The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal(1).

- At doses any higher than 50mcg daily, it must be utilized with anabolic steroids in order to preserve muscle mass. T3 is a very potent metabolism stimulator and it does not discriminate between carbohydrates, protein and fat when it comes to what is utilized as fuel. Therefore, at higher doses, AAS is required to promote nitrogen retention in the muscle.

- When utilized with AAS, T3 can actually be very good for bulking as well, considering the fact that T3 will speed up the metabolism and allow more nutrients to be utilized for muscle anabolism. How much to use depends on the caloric intake of the user and goals.

- EXCESSIVE DOSES OF AAS ARE NOT NECESSARY TO STAVE OFF MUSCLE CATABOLISM FROM T3!!!! There is no need to be running a combined 1,000mg of gear with T3. 300mg weekly of Testosterone ONLY is enough to ward off muscle catabolism. 100mg Testosterone with 200mg Trenbolone weekly is just perfect. High doses of gear IS UNNECESSARY with T3 if the idea is to simply avoid the loss of muscle while on T3 for fat loss purposes.

- T3 is not a stimulant and therefore imparts no stimulant-like effects. Some individuals explain of increased heart rate on T3, and at particularly higher doses, heart palpitations. Note that this is because T3 plays a role in regulating heart rate, and this is not due to any particular stimulant effects.

I hope this post helps you and anyone else out here about T3, its facts, myths, and proper use. I hope this has answered most people's common questions about T3.

REFERENCES:
1. Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy. Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH. N Engl J Med 1975 Oct 2;293(14):681-4

[t-dogg]

BAM!


IDK, I feel like a little kid again. Im starting to get excited about my next cycle. Almost like Xmas.

[t-dogg]

Also Atonimi, what do you feel is helping fat loss more for you right now? Im guessing the T3.

[krugerr]

Atonimi, I love your posts. Your posts make me weak at the knees, I actively swoon when I see your name appear in good threads!

-Krugerr

[likelifting]

Thank you Atomini. Great info. The only part of that post I didn't like was where Atomini said "It is NOT necessary to use excessive amounts of AAS"

Weird that I just took my first dose of T3, before reading the post.

[austinite]

Good job Atomini.

[Atomini]

Also Atonimi, what do you feel is helping fat loss more for you right now? Im guessing the T3.

Yes, I noticed a SIGNIFICANT boost in fat loss when using T3.

One very important detail I forgot to make note of is the increase in resting body temperature while on T3. It should be causing your metabolism to increase to the point where your resting body temperature should be on average 0.5 - 1 degree higher than normal. Mine on average now is around 98.5. Normally without T3 I am in the 97.0 range.

Atonimi, I love your posts. Your posts make me weak at the knees, I actively swoon when I see your name appear in good threads!

-Krugerr

Thanks! I try.

Thank you Atomini. Great info. The only part of that post I didn't like was where Atomini said "It is NOT necessary to use excessive amounts of AAS"

Weird that I just took my first dose of T3, before reading the post.

Why don't you like that? It's true. It should save you money on gear too. If you don't need to use excessive AAS doses just to preserve muscle on gear, then why waste money on using more than you have to?

[FONZY007]

Great read Atomini

[likelifting]

Why don't you like that? It's true. It should save you money on gear too. If you don't need to use excessive AAS doses just to preserve muscle on gear, then why waste money on using more than you have to?

I like gear. I like lots of gear. Just trying to bring some funny. Looks like I failed.

[likelifting]

Back to T3. Seems to me the Albut brings body temp up more than T3, so far. I should say, I noticed my body temp go up more on Albut than I have with my first dose of T3.

[Atomini]

Back to T3. Seems to me the Albut brings body temp up more than T3, so far. I should say, I noticed my body temp go up more on Albut than I have with my first dose of T3.

Likewise. Everyone will have their individual personal responses. When I started Albuterol, it shot my temp up about a degree higher than normal. When I added in T3 at 100mcg daily, temp went up by antoher 0.5 - 1 degree. I'm up to 150mcg/day at this point but have not noticed any vast vemperature increases as of yet.

[likelifting]

Likewise. Everyone will have their individual personal responses. When I started Albuterol, it shot my temp up about a degree higher than normal. When I added in T3 at 100mcg daily, temp went up by antoher 0.5 - 1 degree. I'm up to 150mcg/day at this point but have not noticed any vast vemperature increases as of yet.

Thanks.

My first dose this am was only 50mcg. I know you said just roll with whatever dose you are going to run it at, but I'm bull headed like that. Did my own thing. So maybe when I hit 100mcg it will raise it some more. ???

I woke up at 4am?, 5am?, can't remember but dosed T3 and went back to sleep. Glad it didn't keep me up. I'm really amped about Albut/T3. I'm not getting stim effects. Friggin love that. Didn't know how thermo's worked.

My muscles are jumping though on Albut. No big. SigOth and me like watching them jump if we're really bored.

TBH, I've lost a couple pounds on Albut alone. It crushes my hunger and I like that. Eating 1 meal a day and then maybe, maybe a snack.

I'm not a good log person, but I might log this for my own records and occasional questions.

[FONZY007]

Recently I grew to 15%, started T3 mid/late December, now I am under 13. My body reacts very well to T3, it's like magic for me. I can eat like shit and cut my cardio in half and still lose weight. It does however, slow down after a while. When I was on for 3 months, my last month progress was much slower than the 1st two. I use it while bulking

So do you use say for 3 months than take a break or just while your on gear?