My first Cycle EVER!!!

[Aspiretobegreat]

Ok, Here's where I'm at.

27 yr old Endomorph.
5'10
179 lbs

This is what I got and was told to follow
By a steroid veteran.

Here's my cycle:
1.5 Test Cyp
.5 Deca
Stacked, every 5 Days.
(I forgot how long this will last, as I have
2 vials of Test and 1 of deca, 10mls each)

For PCT I have HCG., will shoot every other day, 3x weekly.

Any thoughts on this?

[Soar]

Crap and I pointed you to the wrong section.. I miss read your post I'm sorry. Ill see if I can get a admin to move it.

This one belongs in the steroid Q&A section

[Aspiretobegreat]

Ha! Misdirected already? Lol I'm kidding.

[Soar]

Ha! Misdirected already? Lol I'm kidding.

My bad read to fast, for some reason I thought you were looking to share a experience. Pm'd a admin to move it.

How many mg of test are you running? Typically for a beginner run we'd only suggest 500mg/week split into two dosages. The HCG is best used on cycle too, 500iu weekly split into two shots as well. You'll also want to invest in a AI for on cycle to control estrogen build up, no one wants man tits.

[Aspiretobegreat]

The bottle reads 200mg/ml of the Test and 300mg/ml of the Deca. I assume this converts to a 200T/150D stack, every 5 days. Source says to start the HCG at last cycle duration. What would one recommend for AI? Source says this is all I would need.................

[songdog]

I suggest you read our stickys 1st.This will give you a understanding on wat you are doing.You will learn about Ais pct Gyno Serms to name a few.But 1st cycles are test only this is something we recommend.This way you will learn how your body responds to test.And if you have a bad reaction you will know wat caused it.Deca is a 19Nor and isnt wat you need right now.More guys have had their bodys messed up by a friend or someone who cycles.Just beacuse someone uses aas doesnt mean they know wat they are doing.

[DOSA]

as said above.
please slow down and fully understand what you are putting into your body and what it may cause.
make sure you have everything on hand before you begin.
AAS is not a learn as you go, take the time now so your first cycle will be great and you can keep the gains..

[MuscleInk]

I suggest you read our stickys 1st.This will give you a understanding on wat you are doing.You will learn about Ais pct Gyno Serms to name a few.But 1st cycles are test only this is something we recommend.This way you will learn how your body responds to test.And if you have a bad reaction you will know wat caused it.Deca is a 19Nor and isnt wat you need right now.More guys have had their bodys messed up by a friend or someone who cycles.Just beacuse someone uses aas doesnt mean they know wat they are doing.

^^^Absolutely agree. There's over 15,000 active members here (possibly more) and many guys with decades of experience, knowledge and success in body building. Read our stickies on cycles for beginners as suggested by Songdog, one of our resident experts.

You should stick to testosterone only. You will absolutely need an aromatase inhibitor unless you want rising levels of estrogen to cause you problems. HCG is run during your cycle, not after and a proper PCT of tamoxifen and clomiphene is strongly advised.

Keep in mind that you won't see desired results unless your nutrition is in order. Most guys come here and say their nutrition is great and quickly find out it is far from even being good. If you don't eat enough beyond your TDEE and the proper ratio of macronutrients, you will fail in your quest.

[Stosh_112]

When do u plan on starting ur cycle???
U should def do some more research before u start... I wouldnt recommend running Deca ur first cycle. U said ur test is 200mg/ml? Just run an even 400mg per wk, split into 2 pins. But def read up more on Ai's and HCG, and proper pct.

Good Luck and ask if u come across anything u dont understand.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Well I trust this guy because he has been juicing for YEARS. This is what he ran his first cycle, so e recommended it to me. My Diet is (Ok). I don't eat a lot of junk. I drink plenty of water. Not a lot of sugar (if any at all). Not a lot of bread, it's mostly meat and proteins, vegetables.

I started Wednesday.

[Soar]

The bottle reads 200mg/ml of the Test and 300mg/ml of the Deca. I assume this converts to a 200T/150D stack, every 5 days. Source says to start the HCG at last cycle duration. What would one recommend for AI? Source says this is all I would need.................

Keep in mind sources normally don't give two shits about your health they're in it for the cash.

[Bigshotvictoria]

Well I trust this guy because he has been juicing for YEARS. This is what he ran his first cycle, so e recommended it to me. My Diet is (Ok). I don't eat a lot of junk. I drink plenty of water. Not a lot of sugar (if any at all). Not a lot of bread, it's mostly meat and proteins, vegetables.

I started Wednesday.

This is the definition of Bro Science. A guy is big and jacked, so what he says is in fact truth. It sounds like you're balls to the wall on this, just don't expect too much from it.

Get your diet in check

Learn about the VERY POWERFUL hormones your putting in your body

Then apply your knowledge to a cycle

[Aspiretobegreat]

Thank you to all.

What AI should I get and where? If that is even a "legal question"

If I am running 200 of test, you think I should double it? These cc/ml/mg are driving me crazy trying to decipher it all.

[Bio-Active]

Thank you to all.

What AI should I get and where? If that is even a "legal question"

If I am running 200 of test, you think I should double it? These cc/ml/mg are driving me crazy trying to decipher it all.

The proposed cycle could be much better bro! You need HCG for on cycle and for pct you need tamox and clomid. 200 Mg of test is to low to cycle i would run 4-5 hundred EW

[Stosh_112]

Pin 1ml/200mg twice a week. 12wks

Run an ai, Aromasin(Liq Stane) 12.5mg EOD

HCG isnt a must but is recommended to help for a faster and more thorough recovery. 250iu twice a wk.

Standard PCT, Clomid 75,50,50,50. Nolva 40,20,20,20 Since ur running Cyp the waiting period from last pin to pct is roughly 14-16 days.

[Soar]

Thank you to all.

What AI should I get and where? If that is even a "legal question"

If I am running 200 of test, you think I should double it? These cc/ml/mg are driving me crazy trying to decipher it all.

As to where you can get your AI you can buy it threw AR-R on this site.

[songdog]

Well I trust this guy because he has been juicing for YEARS. This is what he ran his first cycle, so e recommended it to me. My Diet is (Ok). I don't eat a lot of junk. I drink plenty of water. Not a lot of sugar (if any at all). Not a lot of bread, it's mostly meat and proteins, vegetables.

I started Wednesday.

Ok lets say you do as your friend says and you run both compounds.Then you have a adverse reaction.Will your friend be able to tell to which compound caused it? or will be able to tell you how your body reacts to test?Point blank bro YOU DONT STACK ON YOUR 1ST CYCLE.There is no need you grow in steps not all at once.Good luck.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Man, you guys know your stuff, butiexpected as much. Ok, here is what I have.

2 10ml 200mg/ml Test Cyp
1 10ml 300mg/ml Deca
1 5000iu 1000iu/ml HCG

HCG is not mixed yet.

Tell me what I need to do? It seems everyone is telling me to up the dose,

On Wednesday my friend pinned me in the left delt with

200mg Test
150mg Deca

He told me to repeat this every 5 days, and start HCG as PCT on last Pin.

I'm assuming, by y'all's seemingly educated advice that this is wrong...

Sorry if someone already answered, but I do better if someone says "Look man, DO THIS..." Lol.

Can I post pics? I took some so I could always tell what I had.

[Tron3219]

Man, you guys know your stuff, butiexpected as much. Ok, here is what I have.

2 10ml 200mg/ml Test Cyp
1 10ml 300mg/ml Deca
1 5000iu 1000iu/ml HCG

HCG is not mixed yet.

Tell me what I need to do? It seems everyone is telling me to up the dose,

On Wednesday my friend pinned me in the left delt with

200mg Test
150mg Deca

He told me to repeat this every 5 days, and start HCG as PCT on last Pin.

I'm assuming, by y'all's seemingly educated advice that this is wrong...

Sorry if someone already answered, but I do better if someone says "Look man, DO THIS..." Lol.

Can I post pics? I took some so I could always tell what I had.

LOOK MAN, DO THIS....
....stop injections till your properly educated

[Tron3219]

Man, you guys know your stuff, butiexpected as much. Ok, here is what I have.

2 10ml 200mg/ml Test Cyp
1 10ml 300mg/ml Deca
1 5000iu 1000iu/ml HCG

HCG is not mixed yet.

Tell me what I need to do? It seems everyone is telling me to up the dose,

On Wednesday my friend pinned me in the left delt with

200mg Test
150mg Deca

He told me to repeat this every 5 days, and start HCG as PCT on last Pin.

I'm assuming, by y'all's seemingly educated advice that this is wrong...

Sorry if someone already answered, but I do better if someone says "Look man, DO THIS..." Lol.

Can I post pics? I took some so I could always tell what I had.

With that said...ur friend knows as much as you do. You run hcg to prevent testicular atrophy ON CYCLE. Your cyp should be pinned every 3.5 days, and you should dose it at about 500mg/wk (250 x 2) WITH NO "DECA".

[Aspiretobegreat]

Well I have no problem doing that. I know somewhat an idea, I have researched on and off for a while. It's not like someone said" hey man, inject this". But out of everything I have ever read, nothing said anything about PCT or AI. I know the side effects and whatnot but I never found any "recipes" so to speak. That's what I'm here for. My friend that gave me the stuff has been on it quite a while. This is what he gave me. Now, I am learning and figuring stuff out, but I'm not trying to OD or anything.

[Tron3219]

Well I have no problem doing that. I know somewhat an idea, I have researched on and off for a while. It's not like someone said" hey man, inject this". But out of everything I have ever read, nothing said anything about PCT or AI. I know the side effects and whatnot but I never found any "recipes" so to speak. That's what I'm here for. My friend that gave me the stuff has been on it quite a while. This is what he gave me. Now, I am learning and figuring stuff out, but I'm not trying to OD or anything.

You won't "od" on that dose, but the way u had "planned" to do it will give you a plethora of side effects now and possibly in the near and distant future. And from what I've read in ur previous post, "hey man, inject this" is exactly what happened.

Be smarter then that, read the stickies on beginner cycles, read up on aromatose inhibitors, pct, side effects you may encounter, etc.. you need to spend a good long time reading, asking questions about what u don't understand before you start, if u want to do this the safest way possible.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Thanks Tron, I will take your advise.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Ok, I'm going to stop injections and get an AI. LOL

My genetics are pretty good. As an Endomorph I build muscle fairly quickly... I have been training (hard) for the past 3 months and have a pretty sound regimen. I have already seen major changes (so has everyone else) I just want to take it to the next level.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems what I have learned thus far is:

1) stop
2) get an AI
3) get on AI for about a week or so
4) start with Cyp, 200mg every 3.5 days only
5) run HCG along with the Cyp
6) no deca for 1st cycle

Am I on the right track so far? Also, do I even have enough to do this? Or do I need to get more?

[Tron3219]

Ok, I'm going to stop injections and get an AI. LOL

My genetics are pretty good. As an Endomorph I build muscle fairly quickly... I have been training (hard) for the past 3 months and have a pretty sound regimen. I have already seen major changes (so has everyone else) I just want to take it to the next level.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems what I have learned thus far is:

1) stop yes
2) get an AIyes
3) get on AI for about a week or sono
4) start with Cyp, 200mg every 3.5 days onlyyes
5) run HCG along with the Cypyes
6) no deca for 1st cycleyes

Am I on the right track so far? Also, do I even have enough to do this? Or do I need to get more?

you have enough cyp for about 9 weeks. you should run it for about 12, it will take a few weeks for you to start seeing the benefits of the test because of the long ester.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Hahah I love how you put the yes and no's lol. So i shouldn't start with the AI before the Test? I read a lot if posts that recommended that.

Man, I sure am glad I came here first.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Hahaha I love how you put the yes and no's. direct to the point, which is what I need.

I'm glad i came here first. (Well, sorta.)

[Aspiretobegreat]

Ok, I decided I am going to become an expert on the gear before using it. I understand I jumped in quickly before getting all the information I could. I am going to wait AT LEAST a year before jumping on a cycle. Here is my next question: is this stuff going to expire before then? Can I keep it that long or should I sell it off?

[Stosh_112]

It will be g2g in a year. Store at room temp out of sunlight.

[Aspiretobegreat]

Ok, one more question, then ill burn this despicable post. My one and only injection, shouldn't have any affect on my body, yes?

[Soar]

Nah you'll be fine :P