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    ExcalCk3 is offline New Member
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    First Cycle Questions

    34yrs old
    5'9" 205lbs 10-12% BF
    10+ years lifting

    This will be my first cycle of steroids . I've been stagnating for the better part of the last year. I have tried many
    different routines and many different diet strategies, but it seems I've hit a major plateau. I'll gain a few pounds
    and lose a few pounds always hovering around 205. I have the gear on the way, but it will sit on the shelf until I
    know I have everything researched and down pat. It will be a 12 week cycle.

    My first question would be, Dbol on first cycle at a dosage of 20-30mg ed for the first 4 weeks. Would that be ok
    or should I stick to just Test E alone? I've seen some say it's fine and some say don't do it.

    250mg-500mg Test E per week? Split between Mondays and Thursdays. Again I've seen this range and just want
    to make sure it's correct.

    Now on the PCT is where I get a bit confused since I've read so much on it. I have nolva for PCT at the moment
    and I have some Adex on hand for gyno. I've seen some say use clomid as well as nolva together and also some
    say all three and even use Adex while on cycle. I just need a bit of clarification on this. I've read a ton on it, but
    still not crystal clear.

    Thanks for your time!

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    Welcome.

    Dbol is not ok for a first cycle. You need to learn how your body reacts to Test only. If you introduce multiple compounds, you will never know which one is causing side effects that you can't handle.

    Week 1 to 12 - Test E @ 500mg weekly (Pinned twice per week, 250mg each every 3.5 days)
    Week 1 to 14 - Adex @ 0.25 EOD (you can switch to E3D after week 12)
    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250 iu twice weekly (this will speed up recovery and prevent testicular atrophy)
    PCT with clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20 (2 weeks after your last injection)

    Good luck. Remember, this will do nothing if youre not eating properly. Visit the diet section to have your diet evaluated.

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    Diet is the most important, I was going to give you an example cycle but it seems Austinite has it covered. You can't go wrong with a cycle like that.

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    Adex or any AI should be used regardless, not just to have on hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Welcome.

    Dbol is not ok for a first cycle. You need to learn how your body reacts to Test only. If you introduce multiple compounds, you will never know which one is causing side effects that you can't handle.

    Week 1 to 12 - Test E @ 500mg weekly (Pinned twice per week, 250mg each every 3.5 days)
    Week 1 to 14 - Adex @ 0.25 EOD (you can switch to E3D after week 12)
    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250 iu twice weekly (this will speed up recovery and prevent testicular atrophy)
    PCT with clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20 (2 weeks after your last injection)

    Good luck. Remember, this will do nothing if youre not eating properly. Visit the diet section to have your diet evaluated.
    Jeeze! This new member first cycle question just isnt the same since Old jack Santa has been absent... Mickey Knox , I'm calling you out!!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome.

    Dbol is not ok for a first cycle. You need to learn how your body reacts to Test only. If you introduce multiple compounds, you will never know which one is causing side effects that you can't handle.

    Week 1 to 12 - Test E @ 500mg weekly (Pinned twice per week, 250mg each every 3.5 days)
    Week 1 to 14 - Adex @ 0.25 EOD (you can switch to E3D after week 12)
    Week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 250 iu twice weekly (this will speed up recovery and prevent testicular atrophy)
    PCT with clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20 (2 weeks after your last injection)

    Good luck. Remember, this will do nothing if youre not eating properly. Visit the diet section to have your diet evaluated.
    This is all you need^^^^^^

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    You should make that a first cycle sticky................ Its been 4 years now ............ and on the names (and avi) have changed

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