Preventative measures

**Firefighter4116** · 01-28-2013, 11:30 PM

I'm starting a test/deca cycle and was advised to also take Fenasteride, anastrozole and clomiphine citrate. What do you think? Thanks for your help.

**Soar** · 01-28-2013, 11:49 PM

Welcome, to be able to help you the best we need your full cycle, dosages, AI etc.

**Firefighter4116** · 01-29-2013, 12:09 AM

I feel dumb about this because I don't know the right way and I see so many different ways recommended by people... I was told based on what I am trying to achieve to do 1 cc of test and .5 cc deca twice a week. Soar, I would be forever grateful to hear a truely correct way to do this. I'm 43, fit (firefighter and work out regular) not trying to get huge. I'm not a body builder but I would like to gain some muscle mass. 10 week cycle

**Soar** · 01-29-2013, 12:20 AM

No worries at all, if its your first time using anabolics I would drop the deca . A simple test run will do you just fine, strength gains and lean mass assuming training and nutrition is in check. You'll want to run a estrogen blocker while on cycle (Aromasin or arimidex ). The clomid you have on the way is for your pct to help get your system running in natural testosterone again.

Hcg if you can get your hand on it should be ran threw out the cycle as well to reduce testicular atrophy and assist is restarting** your system faster.

**Firefighter4116** · 01-29-2013, 12:31 AM

Cool deal, I'll keep the deca for a 2nd cycle. Is the 1 cc twice a week and taper down last 3 weeks ok for the test?

**Soar** · 01-29-2013, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Firefighter4116

Cool deal, I'll keep the deca for a 2nd cycle. Is the 1 cc twice a week and taper down last 3 weeks ok for the test?

Assuming you're running testosterone enanthate 250mg/ml? Twice a week shot of 1ml each shot is perfect. No need to taper down you can run it the same the entire cycle. For your pct you start that 14 days after your last injection.

I was looking for a link to share with you on the beginner cycles but I can't seem to find it at the moment.

**lovbyts** · 01-29-2013, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Soar

No worries at all, if its your first time using anabolics I would drop the deca . A simple test run will do you just fine, strength gains and lean mass assuming training and nutrition is in check. You'll want to run a estrogen blocker while on cycle (Aromasin or arimidex ). The clomid you have on the way is for your pct to help get your system running in natural testosterone again.

Hcg if you can get your hand on it should be ran threw out the cycle as well to reduce testicular atrophy and assist is retarding your system faster.

^^^ what he said.

Originally Posted by Firefighter4116

Cool deal, I'll keep the deca for a 2nd cycle. Is the 1 cc twice a week and taper down last 3 weeks ok for the test?

Good discussion, you wont regret waiting on the deca. There are to many people willing to give you advise who dont really have a clue and only think they know the best/strongest thing to use but that is not the right way to go. We like to say you need to grow into your cycles and it's best to know how you will react to each individual hormone one at a time. You also wont gain more by adding more and only risk additional negative side effects.

This is the one Soar was probably looking for but it still is a little dated and could use some revising such as test only for 1st cycle.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UQd3WEHhxv8

Welcome.

**songdog** · 01-29-2013, 06:43 AM

Yeah bro didnt you run M1T a while back? 1st dont listen to friends many guys have got their bodies mess up beacuse of this.Follow the advise given above on test only and put the Deca on hold for 3 or 4 cycles and you will be fine.You will see you dont need it.Have your diet dialed it and you will do fine!

**Firefighter4116** · 01-29-2013, 08:00 PM

I really appreciate the sound advice. I have in fact heard several different ways to do this and I just didnt feel right about what I was being told. Now I feel good about waiting on the deca and running 10 weeks on test alone. I will continue to read ya'lls advice to others as well, thank you guys so much.

**calstate23** · 01-29-2013, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Firefighter4116

I'm starting a test/deca cycle and was advised to also take Fenasteride, anastrozole and clomiphine citrate. What do you think? Thanks for your help.

Yes, a regular test cycle is a good start...Anastrozole (brand name Arimidex ) is an AI (Aromatase inhibitor)...An AI is typically used from the START of cycle to prevent super high estrogen levels...With such high testosterone levels it will convert into estrogen...High estrogen levels can cause side effects like "Bitch tits" and acne, water retention etc..So keeping this in control is good on cycle...

Fenasteride is probably Finasteride....Finasteride (brand names Proscar and Propecia) is used for male pattern baldness and enlarged prostate...The difference between propecia and proscar is the dose...Off the top of my head I believe Propecia is 1 mg dose and Proscar is 5 mg...So, this drug is not needed unless ONE OR BOTH of these things are of concern...

**calstate23** · 01-29-2013, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Firefighter4116

I'm starting a test/deca cycle and was advised to also take Fenasteride, anastrozole and clomiphine citrate. What do you think? Thanks for your help.

And Clomiphane citrate (Brand name Clomid) is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) and is typically used with Nolvadex a couple weeks weeks after your steroid cycle to help your body start producing testosterone naturally again...Again, "Clomid" and "Nolva" are typically used together for about 4 weeks after cycle to help your body start producing natural testosterone again..