The "money isn't an issue cycle"

[snowblowjoe]

Like I said if money isn't an issue then what would yield the greatest cutting and retainable lean muscle mass, test and var or test and primo? I want to drop from 14 percent bf down to 9 percent bf. Don't want to look bulky I want cuts shreds and great tone. I don't care about strength I just want to look god like naked lol

[ma_fighter]

Test/Tren at a small kcal deficit, about -1 lbs/week for 10 weeks = about a %5 drop in bf.

[< <Samson> >]

If you like just spending money you can get pretty creative I suppose.

A ton of pharma grade Var along with some pharma grade test along with plenty of primo.

But, I really do think these results can be achieved without the extra spent cash.

[ma_fighter]

If you like just spending money you can get pretty creative I suppose.

A ton of pharma grade Var along with some pharma grade test along with plenty of primo.

But, I really do think these results can be achieved without the extra spent cash.

Completely agree

[< <Samson> >]

Test/Tren at a small kcal deficit, about -1 lbs/week for 10 weeks = about a %5 drop in bf.

Exactly what I am going for on my next run. We'll check out the powers of TA.

[snowblowjoe]

@samson... Then what would you recommend me running to give me very similar results. Running Tren is out of question

[ma_fighter]

Any heavy androgen + test on a kcal deficit should do the trick.
Hell, test alone with a clean diet will be enough to get you sub 10%bf without any real muscle loss.

[snowblowjoe]

I'd really like a mod or pro bb to chime in on here.
If money wasn't an issue then would the primo and test cycle FAR out weight the test only anvar cycle? I would save me quite a bit of money as well...

[Turkish Juicer]

I'd really like a mod or pro bb to chime in on here.
If money wasn't an issue then would the primo and test cycle FAR out weight the test only anvar cycle? I would save me quite a bit of money as well...

Hmmm... 8 weeks of Anavar @100mg ED combined with Test is not going to be a very cheap cycle either.

Do you really need a mod or a pro bb to chime in on this in order to get something so simple calculated and confirmed?

[snowblowjoe]

I don't mind the price of anvar as long as it's similar or at least close to the same results id see from test primo. What would you say about that?

[Turkish Juicer]

Yeah, results of Primo and Anavar are close to a certain extent. On the one hand, both compounds have the quality of building lean muscle and provide users with a certain muscular look with hardness to the muscles. On the other hand, Anavar is still hepatatoxic and often has the potential to destroy cardio for most users, which are downsides that cannot be ignored.

[snowblowjoe]

I'd be running albuterol or Clenbuterol with it to help cardio. Under steroid profile on this forum it suggest that Var like winny could actually help you in endurance particularly mma. I know it's not cheap but still much cheaper than primo

[Turkish Juicer]

Running a metabolic accelerator such as Clen or its equivalent is irrelevant regarding cardio.

Many users experience unbearable pumps with Anavar, back pumps in particular, which often interferes with both lifting and cardio in a negative manner.

[snowblowjoe]

TJ, sounds like you greatly prefer the primo test stack. Is that your all time favorite stack?

[Turkish Juicer]

I had great results with Test & Primo cycles but again, I have never had any issues having access to pharm grade Primobolan Depot at a reasonable price and money never became an issue. Moreover, Primo never gave me unbearable pumps and hence not interfered with cardio or lifting sessions... The only side I got from Primo was thinning of my hair as this became evident about 12 weeks into the cycle. People with prostate issues should certainly stay away from it and the same goes for rest of the DHT compounds IMO. Using a DHT blocker should always be considered as an option when running a long Primo cycle, especially if dosages are generous. On a last note, a 14 week Primo cycle is much more likely to put you to HRT one day compared to an 8 week cycle with whatever compound maybe involved. I recovered fine because HCG was properly administered throughout the cycle which I also blasted with while waiting for PCT to start and also ran Nolvadex for 2 extra weeks.