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    Short VS Long Cycle

    Interested in opinion. I have always run 12/13 week cycles with good results. The problem always is what you lose when you come off. I always try to take at least as long off as I was on.

    So what if you did shorter cycles - say 6-7 weeks on, 6-7 weeks off? My logic was - over a 12 month period of time you would gain as while on a long cycle, but lose less. IE net gain.

    Thoughts? Logic completely off?

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    Stats please

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    I think the ability to retain most of your goals would rely on the diet and training after the cycle ended. Assuming you did a proper Pct

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    If given the option I prefer short cycles..on and off. Easier recovery. Sometimes long cycles are necessary for certain goals and with certain compounds

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    And longs dont mean that you lose everything, it just means you arent eating enough and training correct to maintain gains. You will lose some, but not all, unless youve hit the "genetic limit". I like shorts as well.

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    Very good info here conveyed by all.

    In my opinion, your cycle length should be a direct correlation of your goal(s), for example, if you are training to compete in a professional sport I say long cycles are the way to go, blast & cruise is my favorite, this provides the opportunity to force (for lack of better term) your body beyond it's genetic limit & gain an edge on your competition. If you are interested only in vanity, then short cycles are for you, that way you have a much better chance of recovery.

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    For convenience reasons I have always preferred long esters so I tend to run longer cycles in the 12-14 weeks range. I have been fortunate to have no problems in recovery but I am always very diligent with my pct and on cycle ancillaries(aromasin , HCG etc).

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    I much prefer shoter cycles anything from 6 weeks under is far better for gains and sides for me. One thing you need to implement when doing short cycles is to prime the body beforehand, this will open the growth window and give you an excellent springboard for growth. If you master priming and design a short cycle correctly the gains can be outstanding.

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    I have run both long and short cycles in the past.

    At one point (it must have been my 12th cycle), it became obvious to me that I wasn't making any LBM gains passed week 8.

    Thus, I decided to run short cycles only from then on. I stopped using heavy ester AAS altogether and started to master 8 week cycles.

    I am well aware of the fact that 6 week cycles have even a higher ratio of risk-benefit; however, orals are necessarily involved in 6 week cycles for best results (orals have super short biological life and results are almost immediate) and I don't do orals.

    ... so, 8 week cycles are what I have been doing over the past few years and will continue to do so in the future.

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