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    Help with 2nd cycle

    Hey guys,

    I am getting ready to start my second cycle as soon as I receive my HCG and PCT.

    I plan on running 500mg Test-E for 10 weeks. My first cycle I ran 300mg for 10 weeks and loved it once I got my AI figure out. I ran liquidex .10 E3D so my first question is where should I start with my AI running 500?

    I will run HCG though out entire cycle I got 6000iu I still have some more reading on this because I havent used it before.

    I will run standard PCT proticol with clomid and nolva.

    I was thinking about possibly running VAR part of my cycle. Would be a bad thing to end my cycle with VAR instead of starting it with VAR. only reason I dont start it with Var is I would not be able to get it for around 4 weeks.

    I also have 20cc deca on hand but not really sure if i need it on my second cycle. Any thoughts or should I just run another straight test only cycle?

    Thanks

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    Also, did you look at this link?

    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    If you liked your first cycle, then i'd suggest you just do what you proposed @ 500mgs EW. And run it for 12 weeks this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    If you liked your first cycle, then i'd suggest you just do what you proposed @ 500mgs EW. And run it for 12 weeks this time around.
    X2...or even 14weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    X2...or even 14weeks
    X3

    Page one..

    "Option 2. Long Ester

    Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
    Wk 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod - monitor and adjust accordingly.
    Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

    PCT
    Begins wk 15 to wk 19

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    X3

    Page one..

    "Option 2. Long Ester

    Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
    Wk 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod - monitor and adjust accordingly.
    Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

    PCT
    Begins wk 15 to wk 19

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20"

    Yes thats a staple well thought out basic plan, but I have personally found 14 weeks to be more beneficial to my body.....but nice copy and past mic :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Yes thats a staple well thought out basic plan, but I have personally found 14 weeks to be more beneficial to my body.....but nice copy and past mic :-)
    From my thread that i authored..yes it is isn't it?

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    I wouldnt bother with the Var, see what 500/wk test does for you. Should be a decent gain over last time. Get use to what each compound does at a given dose and then add others so you know what to expect and which results come from which compound.

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    Thanks for the advice guys I think running HCG I will still to 10 weeks at 500 test E. see how that goes I only have 20cc on hand or I would run longer. I got sick the last time I ran prop. I don't know if it was the prop but dont feel like testing it to find out.

    Just to refresh I start PCT 14 days after last pin correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Yes thats a staple well thought out basic plan, but I have personally found 14 weeks to be more beneficial to my body.....but nice copy and past mic :-)
    He is the master

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    Hey guys,

    I made the mistake of not getting BW done before my first cycle but plan on going to a private clinic what do I need to ask for?

    Thanks

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    From Kel's thread..

    • Total Testosterone
    • Bioavailable testosterone (aka Free and Loosely Bound)
    • Free Testosterone
    • SHBG
    • DHT (gel users especially pay attention to this)
    • Estradiol (specify “sensitive” assay for males)
    • LH
    • FSH
    • Prolactin
    • Cortisol
    • Thyroid Panel (complete)
    • CBC
    • Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
    • Lipid Panel
    • PSA (age dependent)
    • IGF-1, IGFBP-3 (if HGH therapy is being considered)
    • Vitamin D


    FOLLOW-UP LABS:

    • Total Testosterone
    • Bioavailable Testosterone
    • Free Testosterone
    • Estradiol (specify “sensitive” assay for males)
    • LH
    • FSH
    • CBC
    • Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
    • Lipid Profile
    • PSA (for those over 40 with family history of prostate CA. >45 all others)
    • IGF-1, IGFBP-3 (if GH therapy has been initiated already)

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    Thanks Mickey!

    I will try to get this done in the next week or so and post results in questions. I know my thyroid is WAY off but no idea where the other levels will be

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