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    Whats up guys im 19 years old im 6'6 weight is 210 pounds. I have 10% body fat and im starting a cycle of anadrol 50. Im taking liver and prostate support and one titan protein. Also after the cycle im taking mancore test replinish and 6 estro both bought at comolete nutrition. Is this okay? What else should i do??.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    Whats up guys im 19 years old im 6'6 weight is 210 pounds. I have 10% body fat and im starting a cycle of anadrol 50. Im taking liver and prostate support and one titan protein. Also after the cycle im taking mancore test replinish and 6 estro both bought at comolete nutrition. Is this okay? What else should i do??.
    At 19 you are to young for ass. You risk damage possibly permanent damage to your not fully developed endocrine system. Your hormones are at there peek right now. Hit the nutrition section and get your diet dialed in so that in 3 or 4 years you can determine if you really want to cycle. FYI oral only cycle with out test as a base is a very bad idea!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    At 19 you are to young for ass. You risk damage possibly permanent damage to your not fully developed endocrine system. Your hormones are at there peek right now. Hit the nutrition section and get your diet dialed in so that in 3 or 4 years you can determine if you really want to cycle. FYI oral only cycle with out test as a base is a very bad idea!!

    So would it be better if i took the mancore test while i was taking anadrol ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    At 19 you are to young for ass. You risk damage possibly permanent damage to your not fully developed endocrine system. Your hormones are at there peek right now. Hit the nutrition section and get your diet dialed in so that in 3 or 4 years you can determine if you really want to cycle. FYI oral only cycle with out test as a base is a very bad idea!!
    Not a good idea to take at your age. I used steroids at a young age and now i am 45 and on Trt for life. If you insist on using,ditch the drols, They are a lil harsh on the system and you wont stop at one pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    At 19 you are to young for ass. You risk damage possibly permanent damage to your not fully developed endocrine system. Your hormones are at there peek right now. Hit the nutrition section and get your diet dialed in so that in 3 or 4 years you can determine if you really want to cycle. FYI oral only cycle with out test as a base is a very bad idea!!

    So would it be better if i took the mancore test while i was taking anadrol ?

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    I dont believe youll find anyone here thatll advise anything except eat and gym buddy, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn View Post
    So would it be better if i took the mancore test while i was taking anadrol?
    Sounds like your mind is made up already on taking anadrols at 19. Well i wish you the best and hope all works out for you down the road. Mancore test will not help you.

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    ive lifted for a while.. i couldnt ever get big. My buddy is younger than me and has takin dbol . he got tested and everything was alright with him.. thats why i got started doing what i am doing..

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    You have 3 threads of the same subject?

    Listen to the advice you have. Don't cycle and spend your money on real food.

    Go to the nutrition forum and post your weight gain diet and your stats so we can help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    ive lifted for a while.. i couldnt ever get big. My buddy is younger than me and has takin dbol. he got tested and everything was alright with him.. thats why i got started doing what i am doing..
    Steroids are not magic! There are no short cuts here. If you can't grow then you are lacking in nutrition and or your training routine.post up what you are yesterday.

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    i need a better lifting plan then.. idk what i am doing wrong. Any ideas?

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    No juice man post your diet in nutrition forum you can get good advice there and post up your routine for review.
    Happy natty gains!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    i need a better lifting plan then.. idk what i am doing wrong. Any ideas?
    Let us see what you are yesterday?

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    whats that mean?

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    List all the food you ate yesterday.

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    I recommend a steroid alternative fro http://affiliate.buysteroids.com/ide...iate.php?id=14

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    I feel like we should come up with fake shit just for threads like these. Cuz they definitely arn't going away when you tell em NO, so might as well say something like:

    Okay kid...New drug on the market...amazing shit called Whey Isolate. Best drug ever. Best part is...it is all oral. You have to drink it with a Gallon of milk for it to work though...You can even stack it with...wait for it...Creatine (TM)... another amazing drug. For PCT, just...oh wait...you don't know what a PCT is...nvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn View Post
    ive lifted for a while.. i couldnt ever get big. My buddy is younger than me and has takin dbol. he got tested and everything was alright with him.. thats why i got started doing what i am doing..
    if you cant eat and train well enough to put on muscle naturally, you cannot eat or train to keep whatever gains you get from cycling. Sure, you will put on a couple lbs of muscle and then shit it all out from not eating enough... and lets not start with your buddies oral only cycle... thats wrong in so many ways

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    How is oral only so wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn View Post
    How is oral only so wrong?
    head over to the profiles section and read up on some of the compounds... all questions will be answered there. The body is actually a very simple system and everything tries to stay in balance. Your bodies reaction to anabolics is what the bodybuilding world tries to minimize and there are simple ways of doing so.... and Im guessing if he only did dbol , he had no PCT in place

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    I have a sawzaver its an anti estrogen and liver toxin product. Then i have 6 estro which is my main pct for after im done running my cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn View Post
    I have a sawzaver its an anti estrogen and liver toxin product. Then i have 6 estro which is my main pct for after im done running my cycle
    Clomid and nolva should be the only acceptable pct

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    Look up omtimizer by legal limit labs. Will that be good for a liver support? Or should i go with liv52 ? One thing about optimizer is it helps toxins.. Which anadrol 50 is known for! Please help asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    Look up omtimizer by legal limit labs. Will that be good for a liver support? Or should i go with liv52 ? One thing about optimizer is it helps toxins.. Which anadrol 50 is known for! Please help asap
    The most effective hepatic health products:
    TUDCA
    UDCA
    NAC
    Essential Forte N

    There are no guarantees regarding hepatic health wrt oral anabolic compounds.

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    Over the counter PCT products are generally garbage.
    Marketed liver supplements are typically garbage.

    Clomid+tamoxifen for pct, preferably with HCG .
    Exemestane/arimidex on cycle for A.I.
    UDCA/TUDCA for liver protectants.

    Long story short: crap you buy at GNC is just that; CRAP.

    Spend your money on real food, and invest some time learning a good training style that your body responds well to. Until then, using AAS is going to be a waste of your time. Also, oral only cycles make you grow, and shrink just as fast. The faster the gains come, the faster they go away when you stop taking the pills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    The most effective hepatic health products:
    TUDCA
    UDCA
    NAC
    Essential Forte N

    There are no guarantees regarding hepatic health wrt oral anabolic compounds.
    ^ This.

    UDCA or TUDCA is where it is at. Everything else are kiddy vitamins.

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    Where can i get clomid? Where can i get arimidex ? Is livcare or liv52 a good liver support?

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    We had a friend who took anadrol when we were younger, right around your age... Swelled up like a balloon, was doing shrugs with 7 plates and just became a strong freak, and oh man were we jealous.
    He had to go off everything cause he didn't do any research, and basically his doctor said if you don't stop you're liver is going to fail, so obviously had to stop. Shriveled up like a prune, looked worse than he did before he started...lost everything. Lets just say we were glad we didn't touch the stuff
    And as far as our friend went he was so depressed he lost all his hard work he just quit lifting all together

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    Diet is on the nutrition page.. And ive talked to some people about liver support. There telling me to get liv52..should i sdo that? And my pct should come right after my cycle right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    Diet is on the nutrition page.. And ive talked to some people about liver support. There telling me to get liv52..should i sdo that? And my pct should come right after my cycle right?
    Your diet is still awaiting some work from you. If you don't know what a macro is then you shouldn't even be considering anything else other than learning about nutrition at this stage in your life.
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    isnt it about my calories and protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn
    isnt it about my calories and protein?
    Before you poison yourself with your proposed plan, go back to the nutrition forum and read the lean bulking 101 stickie by GBrice. Then work out and write up a diet for critique. Seriously, that is all you should be worrying about at this stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhahn View Post
    Where can i get clomid? Where can i get arimidex? Is livcare or liv52 a good liver support?


    Would you read what I said? the answer about liv52 and livcare is ....

    NO.

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    What's wrong with liv52? It's better than milk thistle
    And for milk thistle might as well just take animal pak it has I think 500mg and everything else in vitamin book lol

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    Read the sticky's man. There is more then enough info to answer your questions there.

    Oral only cycle = horrible HORRIBLE HORRIBLE idea. Whoever told you to do this is a moron and should not be listened to any longer

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    in many ways being an older man has freed me of the concerns shared by the potential family man. My kids are adults, I don't have many worries shared by you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emerald View Post
    in many ways being an older man has freed me of the concerns shared by the potential family man. My kids are adults, I don't have many worries shared by you all
    Sorry to call you out but what does that have to do with the price of rice in China?

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