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    chris0 is offline Associate Member
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    Sensitive nipples, need advice !

    Hey guys,

    Im currently running test, deca and masteron .

    Playing with my Mrs. last night I noticed my nipple was a bit more sensitive then usual and when I squeeze it or touch it (not just a soft poke but a little squeeze..NO HOMO) it feels uncomfortable, I wouldn't say painful.

    I started on 0.25 Arimidex EOD from last night, should I continue that until sensitivity returns to normal or am I just being paranoid and should wait until its sore to touch or itchy?

    Also do I need to add caber for the deca or should keeping estro under control using adex control things?

    Thanks for the help fellas.

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    Stop playing with them.

    Are you saying you JUST included an AI on your cycle that you've already begun?

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    Continue the AI, or up it if you must.

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    what dose of deca and masteron

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    Deca 500mg per week and master 400mg per week and Test 625mg, also Its mast E.

    Mickey- yes I have just included adex because im a bit paranoid about the sensitive nips. Ive never had to run an AI in the past as I haven't had the need to.. I was relying on the master to help out with this one.

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    You should be fine within a few days.

    In the meantime, i suggest very strongly that you read up on the effects of elevated Estrogen levels. Some of these effects are NOT seen or felt, yet they have a negative (and often very serious) impact on your system.

    Unless blood work dictates otherwise, i recommend you always use an AI on cycle.

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    Cardiovascular Dangers of Excess Estrogen

    Conventional medical dogma states that estrogen is cardio-protective while androgens are pro-atherogenic. This fallacy is based on the mere fact that men have higher levels of heart disease than women.

    Excess estrogen in males has many harmful effects, and is definitely not cardio-protective. The following are just a few of the many research studies demonstrating the harmful cardiovascular effects of excess estrogen in males:

    1) Increases Risk of Stroke.
    After adjustment for age, hypertension, diabetes, adiposity, cholesterol, atrial fibrillation, and other characteristics were made in a group of 2,197 men aged 71 to 93 years of age, men with the highest blood levels of estradiol had a 2.2-fold greater risk of stroke, compared with those whose estradiol levels were lower. www .ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17310026

    2) Increases carotid artery thickness.
    In a study of 313 men whose average age was 58, carotid artery intima-media thickness was measured at baseline and then three years later. After adjusting for other confounding risk factors, higher levels of estradiol were associated with thickening of the carotid artery wall. Researchers concluded, “Circulating estradiol is a predictor of progression of carotid artery intima-media thickness in middle-aged men.” jcem.endojournals.org/content/91/11/4433.full

    3) Negatively affects lipids and other risk factors for CAD.
    In an angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in a group of men with stable coronary artery disease, significant positive correlations between estradiol levels and other known atherosclerotic risk factors was observed. Researchers concluded, “Our results indicate a possible role of estradiol in promoting the development of atherogenic lipid milieu in men with coronary artery disease.” ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15860391

    4) Promotes coronary atherosclerosis.
    In another angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in men aged 40-60 years, compared with healthy age-matched controls, men with coronary atherosclerosis had higher levels of estrone and a low level of testosterone in the presence of a high level of estradiol. Researchers concluded, “Low levels of total testosterone, testosterone/estradiol ratio and free androgen index and higher levels of estrone in men with coronary artery disease appear together with many features of metabolic syndrome and may be involved in the pathogenesis of coronary atherosclerosis.”
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15669538

    5) Associated with heart attacks.
    In a study of men having suffered an acute myocardial infarction (heart attack), a prior heart attack, and patients with normal coronary arteries, the results showed significantly higher levels of estradiol in both groups of heart attack patients compared with those without coronary disease. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17435665

    6) Increases Blood Pressure
    Excessively high levels of estrogen cause production of superoxide, a potent free radical which damages cell structures and increases blood pressure.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21411770

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Cardiovascular Dangers of Excess Estrogen

    Conventional medical dogma states that estrogen is cardio-protective while androgens are pro-atherogenic. This fallacy is based on the mere fact that men have higher levels of heart disease than women.

    Excess estrogen in males has many harmful effects, and is definitely not cardio-protective. The following are just a few of the many research studies demonstrating the harmful cardiovascular effects of excess estrogen in males:

    1) Increases Risk of Stroke.
    After adjustment for age, hypertension, diabetes, adiposity, cholesterol, atrial fibrillation, and other characteristics were made in a group of 2,197 men aged 71 to 93 years of age, men with the highest blood levels of estradiol had a 2.2-fold greater risk of stroke, compared with those whose estradiol levels were lower. www .ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17310026

    2) Increases carotid artery thickness.
    In a study of 313 men whose average age was 58, carotid artery intima-media thickness was measured at baseline and then three years later. After adjusting for other confounding risk factors, higher levels of estradiol were associated with thickening of the carotid artery wall. Researchers concluded, "Circulating estradiol is a predictor of progression of carotid artery intima-media thickness in middle-aged men." jcem.endojournals.org/content/91/11/4433.full

    3) Negatively affects lipids and other risk factors for CAD.
    In an angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in a group of men with stable coronary artery disease, significant positive correlations between estradiol levels and other known atherosclerotic risk factors was observed. Researchers concluded, "Our results indicate a possible role of estradiol in promoting the development of atherogenic lipid milieu in men with coronary artery disease." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15860391

    4) Promotes coronary atherosclerosis.
    In another angiographic trial of coronary atherosclerosis in men aged 40-60 years, compared with healthy age-matched controls, men with coronary atherosclerosis had higher levels of estrone and a low level of testosterone in the presence of a high level of estradiol. Researchers concluded, "Low levels of total testosterone, testosterone/estradiol ratio and free androgen index and higher levels of estrone in men with coronary artery disease appear together with many features of metabolic syndrome and may be involved in the pathogenesis of coronary atherosclerosis."
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15669538

    5) Associated with heart attacks.
    In a study of men having suffered an acute myocardial infarction (heart attack), a prior heart attack, and patients with normal coronary arteries, the results showed significantly higher levels of estradiol in both groups of heart attack patients compared with those without coronary disease. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17435665

    6) Increases Blood Pressure
    Excessively high levels of estrogen cause production of superoxide, a potent free radical which damages cell structures and increases blood pressure.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21411770
    Give him hell for me Mick. All these guys and their booby issues. Just wait until the cardiac menace hits them.

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    Thanks mate.
    I will continue with arimidex until the end then switch to aromasin to avoid rebound.
    Ive heard good things about masteron and its AI properties but im not sure how much of it are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Give him hell for me Mick. All these guys and their booby issues. Just wait until the cardiac menace hits them.
    Roger that!

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    Nicely handled Mick!

    Op, learn from this. Using gyno as your only barometer is not at all wise. Far more estrogen related sides are internal, not external.

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    The mistake wont be made again don't worry. Thanks for the advice guys.

    Would you recommend I use some caber, or will controlling estro keep prolactin sides at bay?

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