Advice on a TEST C Equipoise cycle

**cjay** · 02-06-2013, 10:35 AM

Second Cycle, as I've said on here before things went really well at 500mgs test E cycle for 12 weeks. Curious what a good cycle of these two would be, looking to run about 16 weeks, including HCG

Stats
37
6'1
235lbs
15% BF, but am dieting and hoping to be around 11-12% by may 1st when I start this
Have been training consistently for for 2 decades
Do 4-5 days of HIIT cardio a week

**-Ender-** · 02-06-2013, 10:49 AM

My honest advice is to forget the Eq.

The compound is very ineffective for me even at high doses.

**Turkish Juicer** · 02-06-2013, 10:55 AM

You don't need a secondary compound for your 2nd cycle.

EQ is pretty useless expect for giving you a huge appetite and making you eat like a horse. Not to mention it has to be administered at a rather high dosage in order to give you that sort of appetite. At the end of the day, you have a thinner wallet and way more RBC floating in your circulatory system than you would ever need, which has its own adverse health effects.

Your best bet for a second cycle is another Test E at 500mg for 12 weeks. You said it worked for you before and there is absolutely no reason for it not to work this time.

Don't fix it if it is not broke!

**Turkish Juicer** · 02-06-2013, 10:57 AM

In addition, you will need to administer a proper AI protocol throughout your cycle.

Either Arimidex 0.25mg EOD or Aromasin 6mg ED will control estrogen levels.

Start your AI the first day of your cycle and continue to take it until the first day of your PCT.

PCT starts 14 days after your last Test E injection. Itconsists of both Nolvadex and Clomid, lasts for 4 weeks.

**cjay** · 02-06-2013, 11:00 AM

Seems to be the running theme to stick with what worked, so I think that's what I'll do. I've been bouncing around adding something to help kick things off, but not sure it's worth it. I've got all my AI and PCT from my first cycle still, so I'm good to go there. I do want to extend my cycle to 16 weeks for logistical reasons.

**Turkish Juicer** · 02-06-2013, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by cjay

Seems to be the running theme to stick with what worked, so I think that's what I'll do. I've been bouncing around adding something to help kick things off, but not sure it's worth it. I've got all my AI and PCT from my first cycle still, so I'm good to go there. I do want to extend my cycle to 16 weeks for logistical reasons.

You can extend your cycle to 26 weeks if you wanted to, it is your choice after all, but you have to beware of the fact that longer a cycle is, it is harder and takes longer for your endocrine system to fully recover, hence increasing the risk of ending up with low testosterone levels , permanently. In addition, longer cycles are also more threatening to your overall health, which is often either ignored or undermined by most juicers.

**cjay** · 02-06-2013, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

You can extend your cycle to 26 weeks if you wanted to, it is your choice after all, but you have to beware of the fact that longer a cycle is, it is harder and takes longer for your endocrine system to fully recover, hence increasing the risk of ending up with low testosterone levels, permanently. In addition, longer cycles are also more threatening to your overall health, which is often either ignored or undermined by most juicers.

So do you think a 4 week increase leads to a substantial increase in danger? I know everyone is different, but I'm not competing or using to an extreme. At my age things have slowed some on gains and I found a cycle over the summer is nice all around for gains, energy for activities I do all summer and just an all around good feeling in the gym, not to mention the sexual benefits. I'd like to minimize the negatives as much as possible, but I'd also not want to be on PCT during my vacation in Sept.

**Turkish Juicer** · 02-06-2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by cjay

So do you think a 4 week increase leads to a substantial increase in danger? I know everyone is different, but I'm not competing or using to an extreme. At my age things have slowed some on gains and I found a cycle over the summer is nice all around for gains, energy for activities I do all summer and just an all around good feeling in the gym, not to mention the sexual benefits. I'd like to minimize the negatives as much as possible, but I'd also not want to be on PCT during my vacation in Sept.

It is not what I think, it is rather how it works.

Shorter cycles are easier to recover from because HTPA shut down phase is relatively shorter compared to long cycles, which is why they always present a better benefit to risk ratio to amateurs, who use AAS for reasons that rather serve personal satisfaction on different levels.

I have come across with various human studies where consistent AAS use starts signalling of various threats to overall human health at around the end of week 8, which is when your lipids starts getting messed up as well as a rise in LDL cholesterol and so forth. Yes, we are all different but keep in mind we are all human which makes it the case that we all share the same essential biological design.

If you want to minimize any potential risks and dangers of AAS use, run shorter cycles. Short cycles require light ester AAS, since light ester compounds kick-in faster, get the job done and they exit your system in 3 days and you can start PCT much sooner compared to cycle in which a heavy ester AAS was employed such as Test E.

Try 150mg Test Propionate EOD for 8 weeks and you'll know what I am talking about.