deca and no test

**Sr_bofia** · 05-10-2003, 05:22 AM

hey bros some of you disagre doing a cycle with no test....but what about this one?

Deca 400 week 1-8 week
Winstrol 50eod 1-8 week
proviron 50ed 1-8 week
hcg 2x 1500ui 5-6 week / 8-9 week
clomid 100mg ed 10-11 week / 50 mg ed 12-14 week
novaldex 10mg ed 10-14 week
Creatine starting 1 week before cycle end
Glutamine 20 g 2 weeks after cycle end
Ala 1g ed 1-8 week
multivit ed

so what do you think?
thanks

**Soldier225** · 05-10-2003, 05:37 AM

Deca only gives you half the muscle building effects of Test, so I guess it depends what you want to accomplish and what's available to you.

soldier225

**joe_capone** · 05-10-2003, 05:37 AM

shit what kinda cycle is this??? bro u dont need hcg in this, and whats with the creatine b4 cycle??? what are ur goals?? stats?? whatever u do do not use deca without test.. you will suffer from the so called deca dick lol man you need to rethink this whole cycle. damn. not smart.

**Sr_bofia** · 05-10-2003, 05:43 AM

1 week before cycle end bro....

And hcg because deca shut you very hard....

I dont want to use test....

**Rickson** · 05-10-2003, 08:17 AM

Why? but yes you can use a deca only cycle if you are not effected by the sides but deca will not make you grow like a test/deca cycle would. Eight weeks of deca is a waste in my opinion though. I think you should do it at least ten weeks and run the winny weeks 7-13.

**Sr_bofia** · 05-11-2003, 06:25 PM

humm im thinking on add 25 mg dianabol for the first 4 weeks

ando running winstrol 4-10 week

something like
Deca 400 week 1-8 week
Winstrol 50eod 4-10 week
dianabol 20mg ed 1-4 week
proviron 50ed 1-8 week
hcg 2x 1500ui 5-6 week / 8-9 week
clomid 100mg ed 10-11 week / 50 mg ed 12-14 week
novaldex 10mg ed 10-14 week
Creatine starting 1 week before cycle end
Glutamine 20 g 2 weeks after cycle end
Ala 1g ed 1-8 week
multivit ed