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    3rd Cycle: Deca, Test E, DBol

    Hello, i am new to this forum and i am going to show you my first "serious" cycle..
    Week 1 - 8 Deca 400mg/w
    Week 1 Test E 250mg/w
    Week 2 - 6 Test E 500mg/w
    Week 7 - 8 Test E 250mg/w
    Week 1 -6 Dbol 30mg/day

    Week 2, 4, 6, 8, 11 - 14 Nolvadex 10mg/day
    Week 3, 5, 7 Proviron 25mg/day

    My current stats are:
    1,86 cm (6.13")
    85 kgs (187 lbs)
    12-13% bf
    training for 4 years

    What do you think about this? How should i split the injections of Deca and Test E during the week (250mg test e every 3 days and 200mg deca every 3 days is ok?)
    Thanks,
    Davide

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    Welcome

    This is a mess, Davide. Where did you come up w/this? All wrong. Those compounds are to be ran at least 12 weeks. What in the world are you doing running Nolva on weeks 2,4,6,8 and 11? I have never in my life heard of that. Besides, Nolva is best used during PCT. And why Proviron weeks 3,5 and 7?

    Back to the drawing board. Hit the PCT Forum to research Clomid and Nolva and HCG . And no need to ramp dosages of your test. 500mgs is just fine. And upon further review, i suggest you just stick w/the test and save the deca for another time if you must. Being 20 you are a little young to be using AAS. Here's a couple reasons why.



    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULZxdYfIWMs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponty91
    Hello, i am new to this forum and i am going to show you my first "serious" cycle..
    Week 1 - 8 Deca 400mg/w
    Week 1 Test E 250mg/w
    Week 2 - 6 Test E 500mg/w
    Week 7 - 8 Test E 250mg/w
    Week 1 -6 Dbol 30mg/day

    Week 2, 4, 6, 8, 11 - 14 Nolvadex 10mg/day
    Week 3, 5, 7 Proviron 25mg/day

    My current stats are:
    1,86 cm (6.13")
    85 kgs (187 lbs)
    12-13% bf
    training for 4 years

    What do you think about this? How should i split the injections of Deca and Test E during the week (250mg test e every 3 days and 200mg deca every 3 days is ok?)
    Thanks,
    Davide
    Yeah this is all over bro shows you have no idea what your doing, no offence bud. You need to get ALOT more educated

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    What do you mean by your first "serious cycle"? Is this your first cycle or not? And yes, that is a mess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm
    What do you mean by your first "serious cycle"? Is this your first cycle or not? And yes, that is a mess...
    Bet you he has done an oral only cycle

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    Thank you for the fast answering..
    This is my third cycle, i only have ran dbol and test e+dbol cycles before.

    So stpete you suggest me to run one more test e + dbol only cycle before hitting deca ? and to keep it 500mg constant in 8 (or 12?) weeks?

    How you suggest me to do PCT for this cycle (test e+dbol) and how for a test e+deca+dbol?

    Thanks againg and remember that i am here to avoid to dostupid things, i am asking for advices

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    Welcome to the forums. Read as much as you can and listen to the vets. Your cycle is a mess. The vets will help you get everything squared away.

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    Hi ponty91 you will find all you need to know here mate and the guys here are very well educated.

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    Bro before you do anything else I would suggest you learn about wat you are doing before you hurt yourself.Do some research read the stickys.Hit the profile section they tell about the compounds.Read beginners cycles these are just a few of the things that will help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponty91 View Post
    Thank you for the fast answering..
    This is my third cycle, i only have ran dbol and test e+dbol cycles before.

    So stpete you suggest me to run one more test e + dbol only cycle before hitting deca ? and to keep it 500mg constant in 8 (or 12?) weeks?

    How you suggest me to do PCT for this cycle (test e+dbol) and how for a test e+deca+dbol?

    Thanks againg and remember that i am here to avoid to dostupid things, i am asking for advices
    Ponty,

    Agree with Pete, you're a shipwreck bro.

    Check out this link for a solid and complete Test/Dbol cycle.


    Most Common Beginners Cycles

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    Thanks, i have looked for this topic and i have chosen this one:

    "Beginners Cycles + (with an Oral)
    Option 1, Long Ester

    Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
    Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day *half life is 4-6hrs
    Wk 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod - monitor and adjust accordingly.
    Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

    PCT
    Begins wk 15 to wk 19

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20"

    this seems to fit with me but unlucky i dont have Aromasin.. i need to get it or i can skip it?

    also here is a "before" shot (not that much before)
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    No you shouldn't skip your A.i you could end up with a host of problems ED, high blood pressure, gyno etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponty91 View Post
    Thanks, i have looked for this topic and i have chosen this one:

    "Beginners Cycles + (with an Oral)
    Option 1, Long Ester

    Wk 1-12 Testosterone Enanthate = 250mg twice/wk e3.5d
    Wk 1-4 Dianabol (Dbol ) = 30mg/day *half life is 4-6hrs
    Wk 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg eod - monitor and adjust accordingly.
    Wk 1-14.5 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before test injection.

    PCT
    Begins wk 15 to wk 19

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20"

    this seems to fit with me but unlucky i dont have Aromasin.. i need to get it or i can skip it?

    also here is a "before" shot (not that much before)
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    You don't "skip" doing your AI.

    Order your AI and your SERM's from the site sponsor AR-R .com

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    where this site ships from? i live in the eu, and want to avoid customs as much as possible..

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    They ship all over the world bro. They are 100% gtg.

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    Nice whats their product standing for the aromasin ?

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    Product standing is 100% satisfaction on all their products. Im currently using their Aromasin (Stane)

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    Alright, i have bought 2 of them

    The proviron and nolvadex are ok for a good pct? How should i spli them?

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    I wouldn't use the provi.

    Instead i would use Clomid and Nolva for PCT, just like you agreed in post #11.

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    4th week, no pump, 8 am shot.. 1 day after 2nd weekly injection of test e (250+250) (dbol 30mgs ed).. have gained 3 kgs, from 84 to 87.. feeling fuller, a bit stronger and good endurance during workouts, even if i work 10+ hours a day..

    blood tests weren't so good, cpk 215 (33-194),transaminasi-gp 49 (0-41), hdl 9 (<35 = high risk)..

    libido is great!

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    why deca if you wanna do 8 weeks , why not NPP, its faster and get out faster so you start PCT

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    I said that im not on deca but only on test e and dbol .. Anyway i don't know what NPP is..:|

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