Can I keep test or tren in the syringe for a few days?

**MFM** · 02-08-2013, 06:28 AM

Can I keep test or tren in the syringe for a few days? I inject less than 1 ml of test and I keep the rest in the syringe to use a few days later and I only change the needle. The syringe is already sterilized and I replace the old needle with a new one, so I guess it is fine, I really still cannot put my hand on an empty vial, So what do you think?

**snowman** · 02-08-2013, 06:54 AM

Its fine... but if you use less then 1 ml, then why are you putting more then what you need???

**clarky.** · 02-08-2013, 07:08 AM

Why r u pulling more than u need as snowman said ??????

**-Ender-** · 02-08-2013, 07:13 AM

He's using amps.

OP, just be cautious about what the syringe comes in contact with. I don't recommed the practice.

**clarky.** · 02-08-2013, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by -Ender-

He's using amps.

OP, just be cautious about what the syringe comes in contact with. I don't recommed the practice.

Gotcha. Theres plenty of places that sell vials

**panntastic** · 02-08-2013, 07:35 AM

If the gear has a rather high ethyl oleate content it will eat away at the syringe also so as ender said not best practice

**Atomini** · 02-08-2013, 07:58 AM

No, this is a bad idea and Panntastic already covered it.

The cosolvents in the solution will eat away at the rubber plunger and plastic, and you risk injecting toxic plastic and rubber particulate into yourself, risking huge issues. You risk abscesses, both infectious as well as sterile ones, and a host of other health problems. I came across a post a while alo (or a website, can't remember) in which a member left his gear pre-loaded into his syringe for more than a day or so and you could visibly see in before and after pictures of the syringe, the rubber plunger and plastics were visibly corroded. Scary.

**austinite** · 02-08-2013, 08:00 AM

Are you doing this because you are travelling? If so, whats the difference if you take a vial or a loaded syringe?

**Lunk1** · 02-08-2013, 08:03 AM

This is bad practice all the way around! Barrels are cheap....fkn stop using the same one over and over. There is a reason they come sealed!

**panntastic** · 02-08-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

No, this is a bad idea and Panntastic already covered it.

The cosolvents in the solution will eat away at the rubber plunger and plastic, and you risk injecting toxic plastic and rubber particulate into yourself, risking huge issues. You risk abscesses, both infectious as well as sterile ones, and a host of other health problems. I came across a post a while alo (or a website, can't remember) in which a member left his gear pre-loaded into his syringe for more than a day or so and you could visibly see in before and after pictures of the syringe, the rubber plunger and plastics were visibly corroded. Scary.

In note to this I recently did a experiment for a member on this board.
It was very highly concentrated tren ace and had a ethyl oleate carrier.
The syringe I used to draw the eo was in a sorry state 1 hour after drawing with it.
I wish I had kept it or at least taken pics for you to see.
If I'm not to busy later I will draw a few ML of eo into a syringe and do a documented timeline for the readers here.
It's not a pretty sight and there's no way you would want to inject after it.

**Atomini** · 02-08-2013, 08:12 AM

Yeah all you need to do is expermient with this yourself to see for yourself. If you can spare a ml of your gear, just try it yourself. Insert 1ml of Trenbolone or whatever into a syringe, and let it sit in the syringe for an hour (an hour is all it takes) and take a good look at the syringe afterwards. Disgusting.

Now imagine what several DAYS of it sitting in the syringe will become like....

Might as well inject draino into yourself.

**Lunk1** · 02-08-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

In note to this I recently did a experiment for a member on this board.
It was very highly concentrated tren ace and had a ethyl oleate carrier.
The syringe I used to draw the eo was in a sorry state 1 hour after drawing with it.
I wish I had kept it or at least taken pics for you to see.
If I'm not to busy later I will draw a few ML of eo into a syringe and do a documented timeline for the readers here.
It's not a pretty sight and there's no way you would want to inject after it.

Would be great "in your face" proof of the damage Pan.

Great idea!

**panntastic** · 02-08-2013, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Would be great "in your face" proof of the damage Pan.

Great idea!

Leave it with me

**Lunk1** · 02-08-2013, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Yeah all you need to do is expermient with this yourself to see for yourself. If you can spare a ml of your gear, just try it yourself. Insert 1ml of Trenbolone or whatever into a syringe, and let it sit in the syringe for an hour (an hour is all it takes) and take a good look at the syringe afterwards. Disgusting.

Now imagine what several DAYS of it sitting in the syringe will become like....

Might as well inject draino into yourself.

What is the anobolic rating of drano???

**panntastic** · 02-08-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

What is the anobolic rating of drano???

Extremely less than evoo and aspirin

**Atomini** · 02-08-2013, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

What is the anobolic rating of drano???

Who wants to find out?

**Armykid93** · 02-08-2013, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

In note to this I recently did a experiment for a member on this board.
It was very highly concentrated tren ace and had a ethyl oleate carrier.
The syringe I used to draw the eo was in a sorry state 1 hour after drawing with it.
I wish I had kept it or at least taken pics for you to see.
If I'm not to busy later I will draw a few ML of eo into a syringe and do a documented timeline for the readers here.
It's not a pretty sight and there's no way you would want to inject after it.

That would be really cool and worth a sticky for sure

**panntastic** · 02-08-2013, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Armykid93

That would be really cool and worth a sticky for sure

I'm working on it as we speak

**diesel101** · 02-08-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

What is the anobolic rating of drano???

I have seen very good reviews on drano!

**Juced_porkchop** · 02-08-2013, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by MFM;6381***

Can I keep test or tren in the syringe for a few days? I inject less than 1 ml of test and I keep the rest in the syringe to use a few days later and I only change the needle. The syringe is already sterilized and I replace the old needle with a new one, so I guess it is fine, I really still cannot put my hand on an empty vial, So what do you think?

I would NEVER do this. besides the fact that the aas and solvents in it will be degrading the rubber plunder ( I have seen some guys have it all break to peaces and even smear when they tried to use it) and it going into you.. even if you dont notice it it is happening and i dont think that sment to go in you. pins are not meant to hold anything for any amount of time other then to giv e a shot, thats why its stated its "single use" its more then just one reason to say that.
its just a stupid risk to take.

buy empty sterile vial for 2-3$ at rui or something.
changing the tip is not enough. once in pin its not sterile and i would not risk keeping it there longer then needed for ONE shot.

my op: BAD idea and not worth the risk...

Be safe man!

**MFM** · 02-08-2013, 09:59 AM

My friends thanks a lot for the replies, I really appreciate every word. Now I'm throwing money in the streets because I have lost so much during just the first week. It doesn't matter how much the empty sterile vials cost, the problem is that I still cannot find them. I started my cycle after 2 guys told me that they will get me vials now they don't even answer their phones. Thank you guys.

**Atomini** · 02-08-2013, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by MFM

My friends thanks a lot for the replies, I really appreciate every word. Now I'm throwing money in the streets because I have lost so much during just the first week. It doesn't matter how much the empty sterile vials cost, the problem is that I still cannot find them. I started my cycle after 2 guys told me that they will get me vials now they don't even answer their phones. Thank you guys.

Don't worry about it man, small delays and slip-ups happen. That's why it always pays to be prepared and properly equipped beforehand in case of any setbacks or anything. Just chalk this up to experience and learn from it so you can be better prepared in the future.

And hey, you learned something new today: leaving liquids that contain corrosive cosolvents in plastic containers are not good, especially when they are to be injected.

**MFM** · 02-08-2013, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Don't worry about it man, small delays and slip-ups happen. That's why it always pays to be prepared and properly equipped beforehand in case of any setbacks or anything. Just chalk this up to experience and learn from it so you can be better prepared in the future.

And hey, you learned something new today: leaving liquids that contain corrosive cosolvents in plastic containers are not good, especially when they are to be injected.

Not just that, I actually learned a lot from you my friend, thank you.

**Juced_porkchop** · 02-08-2013, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by MFM

My friends thanks a lot for the replies, I really appreciate every word. Now I'm throwing money in the streets because I have lost so much during just the first week. It doesn't matter how much the empty sterile vials cost, the problem is that I still cannot find them. I started my cycle after 2 guys told me that they will get me vials now they don't even answer their phones. Thank you guys.

RUI products has them, they are VERY easy to find but it sucks it was not before hand. shit if you are in canada I got a bunch of extera empty unused strl vials i will send you for free (minus shipping) but unless you are close i dont think it will be any faster then ordering from an online seller.

I wish you the best..

**swm1972** · 02-08-2013, 03:08 PM

I've had rest suspension melt the plunger on a syringe over the course of a few days. I wouldn't preload after seeing that personally. But I have had non EO based gear preloaded before and didn't see any visible signs of degraded rubber in the plunger. But the thing is what's going on at a level you can't see? How much melted rubber components are acceptable to you? I wouldn't do it. If you are getting something in amps you aren't using all of in a single use, I'd get an empty sterile vial and transfer it there. Look around. You can find 1.5 and 2ml vials.

**Juced_porkchop** · 02-08-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Don't worry about it man, small delays and slip-ups happen. That's why it always pays to be prepared and properly equipped beforehand in case of any setbacks or anything. Just chalk this up to experience and learn from it so you can be better prepared in the future.

And hey, you learned something new today: leaving liquids that contain corrosive cosolvents in plastic containers are not good, especially when they are to be injected.

yeah sucks, but be safe always! better then saving a few bucks for issues

**Atomini** · 02-08-2013, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by swm1972

I've had rest suspension melt the plunger on a syringe over the course of a few days. I wouldn't preload after seeing that personally. But I have had non EO based gear preloaded before and didn't see any visible signs of degraded rubber in the plunger. But the thing is what's going on at a level you can't see? How much melted rubber components are acceptable to you? I wouldn't do it. If you are getting something in amps you aren't using all of in a single use, I'd get an empty sterile vial and transfer it there. Look around. You can find 1.5 and 2ml vials.

LOL holy christ, it MELTED the plunger?? Jeeez. I've never preloaded and I can't imagine even the people who preload syringes and shoot 30 minutes to an hour later even, that's still risking it.

**OnTheSauce** · 02-08-2013, 04:08 PM

i preload syringes the night before sometimes, no EO in the oil though. Never noticed anything??

**Charger527** · 02-08-2013, 04:49 PM

I preload all my pins usaully few weeks in advance, never had any issues i only use pharm or vet grade though

**swm1972** · 02-08-2013, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

LOL holy christ, it MELTED the plunger?? Jeeez. I've never preloaded and I can't imagine even the people who preload syringes and shoot 30 minutes to an hour later even, that's still risking it.

I will pre load one for kicks and take a picture on Monday or Tuesday when I get back home. You literally can see a darker hue to the oil right next to the black plunger. And when you pull the syringe apart you can visibly see the break down. I won't run that test susp anymore. I just don't think the oil based suspensions with all the solvents is something I want to be injecting into my body. So it's not like its being wasted. It wouldn't ever be run anyway. I will post a pic of the vial too. It's a fairly well known underground based out of Europe.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-08-2013, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

What is the anobolic rating of drano???

Is a PCT required?

**boz** · 02-09-2013, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Yeah all you need to do is expermient with this yourself to see for yourself. If you can spare a ml of your gear, just try it yourself. Insert 1ml of Trenbolone or whatever into a syringe, and let it sit in the syringe for an hour (an hour is all it takes) and take a good look at the syringe afterwards. Disgusting.

Now imagine what several DAYS of it sitting in the syringe will become like....

Might as well inject draino into yourself.

In atomini case sparing 1ml of tren would be asking for way too much. Btw he prob has 100ml+ sitting at home HA

**likelifting** · 02-09-2013, 05:30 AM

OP, another reason not to use twice is if you are aspirating and pull something back in the syringe, you wouldn't want to inject that next time.

**Atomini** · 02-09-2013, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by boz

In atomini case sparing 1ml of tren would be asking for way too much. Btw he prob has 100ml+ sitting at home HA

No joke, your estimation is correct... I have at least 10 bottles 10ml each. 10 x 10ml = 100ml, at least. lol.

**swm1972** · 02-09-2013, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

LOL holy christ, it MELTED the plunger?? Jeeez. I've never preloaded and I can't imagine even the people who preload syringes and shoot 30 minutes to an hour later even, that's still risking it.

I loaded one last night around 10pm eastern. It is now almost 8am eastern and I can already see wear to the plunger. The edges just look less sharp and more rounded compared to a new one. Ill post picks after a day or two. I leave for a out of town trip in a few hours. Ill post results when I get home. You won't believe how bad these solvents react with the plunger of a syringe.

**panntastic** · 02-09-2013, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by swm1972

I loaded one last night around 10pm eastern. It is now almost 8am eastern and I can already see wear to the plunger. The edges just look less sharp and more rounded compared to a new one. Ill post picks after a day or two. I leave for a out of town trip in a few hours. Ill post results when I get home. You won't believe how bad these solvents react with the plunger of a syringe.

Before I left the house earlier I noticed the one I left in eo, the plunger rubber had doubled in size and fell of the plunger

**Bonaparte** · 02-09-2013, 01:32 PM

FFS!! EO is the only solvent that will damage a plunger. His gear most likely doesn't even contain any, since it usually isn't used for long esters at standard concentrations.

**panntastic** · 02-09-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

FFS!! EO is the only solvent that will damage a plunger. His gear most likely doesn't even contain any, since it usually isn't used for long esters at standard concentrations.

I agree 100%
I have only ever noticed eo affecting the syringe
That's why I am doing my test with eo only.
Oil BA and bb won't do anything due to low amounts in a 10ml vial