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    Syztem is offline Junior Member
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    Test e plus? - Cycle layout-round 3

    I am researching for my next cycle and beginning to stock accordingly.

    So far:
    Animal pak vitamins
    Liver support
    Zinc
    Diet is in check. If I have questions I will apply to the proper forum.
    Pct is still up on the air. Basic nolva/clomid?
    Liquidex for ai.
    Test e at 250mg twice a week but I am considering switching to sustanon
    Stacking with duta or finastride for hair loss. Male pattern baldness sucks so I have to cycle accordingly. Its a first for me so i dont know dosages yet. Hair loss has not been very bad but I want to keep it that way. Obviously No dht orals like win.
    What's a safe oral stack with my current layout? I want to protect my hair. I generally want to bulk and I know I can do just that on test alone but I would like that little extra. Superdrol was an option but I did not even know it was banned till recent. What other hair safe stacks can I do. I also would like to protect my libido. Dieselbolan was brutal in that department.

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    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syztem View Post
    I am researching for my next cycle and beginning to stock accordingly.

    So far:
    Animal pak vitamins
    Liver support
    Zinc
    Diet is in check. If I have questions I will apply to the proper forum.
    Pct is still up on the air. Basic nolva/clomid?
    Liquidex for ai.
    Test e at 250mg twice a week but I am considering switching to sustanon
    Stacking with duta or finastride for hair loss. Male pattern baldness sucks so I have to cycle accordingly. Its a first for me so i dont know dosages yet. Hair loss has not been very bad but I want to keep it that way. Obviously No dht orals like win.
    What's a safe oral stack with my current layout? I want to protect my hair. I generally want to bulk and I know I can do just that on test alone but I would like that little extra. Superdrol was an option but I did not even know it was banned till recent. What other hair safe stacks can I do. I also would like to protect my libido. Dieselbolan was brutal in that department.
    Uhh, why are you considering sustanon over just a regular long ester test? If you're set on running an oral, Liv.52 probably is a good idea. Superdrol is a DHT derivative, by the way.

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    Hey man!

    Couple of first cycles should be test only, pick eater long or short , don't like blends personally!

    If you'll run long ester you may add dbol or tbol for kickstart for first 4weeks.

    If you'll pick short one add var or tbol for last 5-6 weeks of your cycle.

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    Liv52 is my liver support. I am already set on something to kick start my cycle for the first 4 weeks and i will use a long acting test. I was thinking of sustanon simply because I have heard good thing and have seen excellent results.

    What would work best to protect hair and what dose?

    What oral is safe to take with Porscar or adovart to start cycle?

    Pct would be 18days after last pin of test e?
    Liquid tamox 40/40/20/20
    Liquid clomi 100/100/50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syztem View Post
    Liv52 is my liver support. I am already set on something to kick start my cycle for the first 4 weeks and i will use a long acting test. I was thinking of sustanon simply because I have heard good thing and have seen excellent results.

    What would work best to protect hair and what dose?

    What oral is safe to take with Porscar or adovart to start cycle?

    Pct would be 18days after last pin of test e?
    Liquid tamox 40/40/20/20
    Liquid clomi 100/100/50/50
    Test is test, I think you'll have an easier time getting yourself dosed right with just running test E or C.
    Why are you asking how many days after the last pin you should run a PCT if this isn't your first cycle?

    What are your stats?

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    First cycle was sustanon and the training went to shit pct and by end of cycle. New job. Lots of traveling. Too many trips to maintain proper diet and proper training. Basically I got lazy. My second cycle was test cyp and a few weeks into it I was feeling slight increases but nothing like I should have been. I later found out that the test was way underdosed, basically bunk. Instead of just stopping I ran a pro hormone desilbolan which I hated, lethargic and harsh on the body. I have since taken about 3 months off. I am buying for a new source. I am starting from square one. My life has now calmed down significantly and I am back in a solid routine and ready to bulk back up.
    Goal is to put on as much weight as possible.

    Please critique my cycle and goals. Looking for some friendly advice and constructive criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syztem
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    5'7
    158lb
    10-11%bf
    First cycle was sustanon and the training went to shit pct and by end of cycle. New job. Lots of traveling. Too many trips to maintain proper diet and proper training. Basically I got lazy. My second cycle was test cyp and a few weeks into it I was feeling slight increases but nothing like I should have been. I later found out that the test was way underdosed, basically bunk. Instead of just stopping I ran a pro hormone desilbolan which I hated, lethargic and harsh on the body. I have since taken about 3 months off. I am buying for a new source. I am starting from square one. My life has now calmed down significantly and I am back in a solid routine and ready to bulk back up.
    Goal is to put on as much weight as possible.

    Please critique my cycle and goals. Looking for some friendly advice and constructive criticism.
    At 158lbs I think your too light to cycle that's just my opinion. How many years have you been training and had a good solid diet? Do you know your TDEE and what surplus of calories will you be having?

    Sorry for the questions but personally I feel a good base should be acquired first before AAS are shot in the mix, that being said if this is your first 'proper' cycle and by that I mean you doing it properly.

    Test e or c for 12 weeks 250mg 2 x week
    Hcg 250ius 2 x week
    Arimidex .25 eod
    Pct 14 days after last shot nolvadex 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50

    Plain and simple but effective

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