Help with my first cycle

[Rocky0019]

hello friends,

my age is 24 training since 4-5 years but never did aas before i weigh nearly 200 pounds or 90kg and 5feet 11inches

I decided to go for aas cycle consisting of test propionate ,test enanhate,dianabol ,boldenone

here is what i am thinking for the cycle
i have test propionate 100mg/ml
test enanthate 300mg/ml
boldenone 200mg/ml
deca 300mg/ml
dianabil 10mg tabs
all from global anabolic

so lets discuss about dosage

Week 1


Monday 1ml test propionate


Thrursday 1ml test propionate


Sat 1ml test propionate


20 mg dianabol from mon to sun




Week 2


Monday 1ml test e 40mg diabol and 1ml test
propionate


Tuesday 1ml deca 1ml boldenone

Wednesday 1ml test propionate


Thursday 1ml test e

Tue-sun 40mg diabol




Week 3


Monday 1ml test e

Tue 1ml boldenone


Wed 1ml deca


Thu 1ml test e

Fri 1ml boldenone


Sat 1ml deca


Mon-sun 30mg diabol




Week 4-11


Repeat


But dianabol is off




Week 12


Testosterone enanthate

1ml x 2




Week 13


Test propionate


1ml eod

This is just a rough sketch
Since I am new to steroids , i dont know much
i welcome any ammendments in the dosage but i want to use all these steroids i dont want to delete any

here is d list of what i want to know
* what will be the best climate to use steroids ...summer or winter in respect to sides
* what should be the pct plan and after what time should i start pct
* how should i train i.e how many times a week and how many muscles per day
* i think my diet is good about 300 grams of proteins a day with good amount of carbo and fats

thanx a lot for your valueable reply

[Papa Smurf]

First cycle = i compound only

Run just Test, pick an ester (ie prop, cyp, eth etc) and run it for 12 weeks at 500 mg ew

This way you will know how your body reacts to the elevated test levels

We are all different................ what works for some, doesnt work for all.

FYI whats your BF %

[MickeyKnox]

^^ This.

Test only first cycle.

**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[Rocky0019]

thanx a lot for d reply bro
i jst want to know the basic rules...
please tell me weakness of d cycle and the pct plan applicable to this...i am at 13-15% body fat and will lower it down before starting d cycle....please tell me how should i do the cycle

[MickeyKnox]

thanx a lot for d reply bro
i jst want to know the basic rules...
please tell me weakness of d cycle and the pct plan applicable to this...i am at 13-15% body fat and will lower it down before starting d cycle....please tell me how should i do the cycle

Did you look at the link i provided?

[Gaspaco]

thanx a lot for d reply bro
i jst want to know the basic rules...
please tell me weakness of d cycle and the pct plan applicable to this...i am at 13-15% body fat and will lower it down before starting d cycle....please tell me how should i do the cycle

1-12 test e 400-500mg/week
1-12 adex 0.25 or aromasin 12,5 eod
1-until 4days before starting pct run HCG 250iu twice a week

PCT 14days after last pin

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

[Gaspaco]

Did you look at the link i provided?

Sorry bro

[Rocky0019]

yes...i looked there...
but i want to tell u further that just for experiment ,
i injected 3 test e injections in me week after week
i.e 250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success....but 3 weeks cant b said as a cycle...thats y i am planning al these compounds

[Honkey_Kong]

thanx a lot for d reply bro
i jst want to know the basic rules...
please tell me weakness of d cycle and the pct plan applicable to this...i am at 13-15% body fat and will lower it down before starting d cycle....please tell me how should i do the cycle

Man just save the dbol , deca , bold and prop for another cycle. Or better yet sell it to someone at your gym. Just stick to test E at 400-500mg per week for 12 weeks.

get yourself some arimidex or aromasin BEFORE you start your cycle. and get some HCG to run during your cycle

your pct should be nolva and clomid. Follow the link Mickey gave for the dosing schedule.

[Honkey_Kong]

yes...i looked there...
but i want to tell u further that just for experiment ,
i injected 3 test e injections in me week after week
i.e 250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success....but 3 weeks cant b said as a cycle...thats y i am planning al these compounds

250mg of test E per week is barely more than a TRT dose. and the gains you made were bloating most likely. I suggest you stop right now and run a PCT before you mess up your body.

[MickeyKnox]

yes...i looked there...
but i want to tell u further that just for experiment ,
i injected 3 test e injections in me week after week
i.e 250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success....but 3 weeks cant b said as a cycle...thats y i am planning al these compounds

You are light years away form doing AAS. You need to read a LOT more on this subject. You also need to read and understand the pros and cons of using AAS.

Start with the Education Threads and then move on to the stickies. Right now, youre completely lost and have no idea what to do. This is no way to begin a cycle. No one is going to spoon feed you. Youre expected to do your own reading.

Educate before you medicate. Very important.

[Papa Smurf]

yes...i looked there...
but i want to tell u further that just for experiment ,
i injected 3 test e injections in me week after week
i.e 250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success....but 3 weeks cant b said as a cycle...thats y i am planning al these compounds

WAIT You come on here and ask for advice AFTER you have started a cycle ..................

WARNING WARNING Will Rogers TROLL ALERT TROLL ALERT

[MickeyKnox]

Educational Threads

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34

Dieting 101: Lean Bulking

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UMy5cKzX_fs

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UISXU2fX_ft

Why It's Important To Run An AI

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UMPClazX_ft

SERM, AI Definition

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJSEImfX_fs

Why HCG is So Important

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

[Rocky0019]

ok bro...but i am telling what i did monhs ago near about 3 months ago...

[Rocky0019]

no no....that was what i did monhs ago....m not doing any aas right now...nor i will do now...i will wait atleast another 3 months before starting a new cycle...and m askin for that

[MickeyKnox]

ok bro...but i am telling what i did monhs ago near about 3 months ago...

It doesnt matter. You still have no idea what youre doing. Not being mean, just keeping it real for YOU.

[Honkey_Kong]

Rocky, you've got a lot of studying to do before you inject yourself with any gear. You need to understand WHY do this or WHY NOT to do that. You also need to understand the consequences of everything more too. First and foremost I'd recommend clicking on the links Mickey posted, and second reading up on each compound you want to take. Start off reading the wikipedia, just to get general information about them.

[Rocky0019]

ohhooo....
my brother i read about these compounds already...
i know what is AI what we use for that and why we use that
i know SERM
i know the pros and cons of the gears i mentioned
i know what pct is and why its imp
my brother i read about most of the steroids
and from that list i chose these steroids
but since i am new to this line
i want you my experianced brothers to help your younger brother out

[MickeyKnox]

ohhooo....
my brother i read about these compounds already...
i know what is AI what we use for that and why we use that
i know SERM
i know the pros and cons of the gears i mentioned
i know what pct is and why its imp
my brother i read about most of the steroids
and from that list i chose these steroids
but since i am new to this line
i want you my experianced brothers to help your younger brother out

Are you kidding bro? you just said, "250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success."

Your 3wks using a long ester (Test E) and 40mg Dbol for two wks was a "success"?? C'mon..smarten up please.

[>Good Luck<]

hello friends,

my age is 24 training since 4-5 years but never did aas before i weigh nearly 200 pounds or 90kg and 5feet 11inches

I decided to go for aas cycle consisting of test propionate ,test enanhate,dianabol ,boldenone

here is what i am thinking for the cycle
i have test propionate 100mg/ml
test enanthate 300mg/ml
boldenone 200mg/ml
deca 300mg/ml
dianabil 10mg tabs
all from global anabolic

so lets discuss about dosage

Week 1

Monday 1ml test propionate

Thrursday 1ml test propionate

Sat 1ml test propionate

20 mg dianabol from mon to sun

Week 2

Monday 1ml test e 40mg diabol and 1ml test
propionate

Tuesday 1ml deca 1ml boldenone

Wednesday 1ml test propionate

Thursday 1ml test e

Tue-sun 40mg diabol

Week 3

Monday 1ml test e

Tue 1ml boldenone

Wed 1ml deca

Thu 1ml test e

Fri 1ml boldenone

Sat 1ml deca

Mon-sun 30mg diabol

Week 4-11

Repeat

But dianabol is off

Week 12

Testosterone enanthate

1ml x 2

Week 13

Test propionate

1ml eod

This is just a rough sketch
Since I am new to steroids , i dont know much
i welcome any ammendments in the dosage but i want to use all these steroids i dont want to delete any

here is d list of what i want to know
* what will be the best climate to use steroids ...summer or winter in respect to sides
* what should be the pct plan and after what time should i start pct
* how should i train i.e how many times a week and how many muscles per day
* i think my diet is good about 300 grams of proteins a day with good amount of carbo and fats

thanx a lot for your valueable reply

Good thing Atomini the fancy talker isn't here yet... He'd rip u a new arse for talking in mL

[Rocky0019]

o mann....bro i think i will npt get the answer...lol
okk m tellin u d story
i know being a long ester test e does not show much effects till 3 weeks of the first inj...
but bro please believe me...i started at 16.2 inch arm
and after 4 weeks i measured 17.3 inches on arms....
after that i got fracture on my arm due to accident
now i have recovered from that fracture but cant lift heavy weights
so i hope after 2-3 monhs i will completely recpver...i want to start my cycle that time with these gears
and i want to plan a perfect cycle in this time...plz help me bro

[>Good Luck<]

ohhooo....
my brother i read about these compounds already...
i know what is AI what we use for that and why we use that
i know SERM
i know the pros and cons of the gears i mentioned
i know what pct is and why its imp
my brother i read about most of the steroids
and from that list i chose these steroids
but since i am new to this line
i want you my experianced brothers to help your younger brother out

If you read anything, it didnt quite sink in. Start over. Educate your self. If you look at an airplane, it doesn't make you a pilot. What you are doing is dangerous and if you can't spend the time to gain the knowledge you need, then why should anyone help you. Read ALL the links Mickey Knox sent you. They are all important and need to be read 2-4 or even 10 times... Until you understand what it is saying

[swm1972]

yes...i looked there...
but i want to tell u further that just for experiment ,
i injected 3 test e injections in me week after week
i.e 250mg per week for 3 weeks along with 40mg dianabol for first two weeks and was a success....but 3 weeks cant b said as a cycle...thats y i am planning al these compounds

Define 'and was a success'.

No way you saw positive gains running a three week cycle of 250/mgs week with dbol at 40mg/day. Didn't happen man. Not saying you didn't run it. But you didn't see results from it. Placebo effect? Maybe....

[panntastic]

Define 'and was a success'.

No way you saw positive gains running a three week cycle of 250/mgs week with dbol at 40mg/day. Didn't happen man. Not saying you didn't run it. But you didn't see results from it. Placebo effect? Maybe....

If anything he seems success as excess water from the dbol ?
Even the prop in the sust wouldn't yield significant results in 3 weeks

[Honkey_Kong]

Define 'and was a success'.

No way you saw positive gains running a three week cycle of 250/mgs week with dbol at 40mg/day. Didn't happen man. Not saying you didn't run it. But you didn't see results from it. Placebo effect? Maybe....

A dbol bloat is most likely the smoking gun.

[panntastic]

A dbol bloat is most likely the smoking gun.

Bingo

[swm1972]

o mann....bro i think i will npt get the answer...lol
okk m tellin u d story
i know being a long ester test e does not show much effects till 3 weeks of the first inj...
but bro please believe me...i started at 16.2 inch arm
and after 4 weeks i measured 17.3 inches on arms....
after that i got fracture on my arm due to accident
now i have recovered from that fracture but cant lift heavy weights
so i hope after 2-3 monhs i will completely recpver...i want to start my cycle that time with these gears
and i want to plan a perfect cycle in this time...plz help me bro

Seriously? Come on man. You didn't gain over an 1" on your arms in 4 weeks running a barely over baseline testosterone levels and dbol . Didn't happen. Bad measurements? Some of the worst water retention I've ever heard of? Who knows. But you didn't get an inch of 'results' on your arm in 4 weeks. Running a legitimate cycle of short esters with everything (diet and training) being dialed in perfectly those would be fantastic results. And given your poor cycle planning I find the odds of you having training and diet dial in fairly low.

[swm1972]

Refresh and see Pann and honkey had address the bloat possibilities. Good call gentlemen. An inch in 4 weeks? I almost LoL'd

[panntastic]

I'm assuming a dirty bulk here excessive levels of sodium and coupled with the dbol I'm assuming he bloated like a corpse in the 4 weeks of this "cycle"
No physical way was it lean mass, impossible!!!!

[Honkey_Kong]

I'm assuming a dirty bulk here excessive levels of sodium and coupled with the dbol I'm assuming he bloated like a corpse in the 4 weeks of this "cycle"
No physical way was it lean mass, impossible!!!!

He probably was mainlining salt to get that kind of bloat.

[panntastic]

He probably was mainlining salt to get that kind of bloat.

Mc D's bulk all day long

[Honkey_Kong]

Mc D's bulk all day long

My arteries are stiffening just thinking about that..

[panntastic]

My arteries are stiffening just thinking about that..

I got kind of hungry lol

[Honkey_Kong]

I got kind of hungry lol

Mickey D's is serving breakfast for a few more hours.....

[panntastic]

Mickey D's is serving breakfast for a few more hours.....

It's been finished for over 4 hours now here in uk lol

[Honkey_Kong]

It's been finished for over 4 hours now here in uk lol

You could do what Michael Douglas did in Falling Down.

[panntastic]

You could do what Michael Douglas did in Falling Down.

Hahaha love that flick