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    so this is my first post and i am hoping for some advice and i think this is the best place to look. im am 26 years old 6ft tall 180pounds 11%bodyfat. been training around 6years. when i started training i knew nothing my nutrition was crap and i started taking steroids straight away. sus and deca around 500mg a week of each. i repeated this cycle several times over 2years. roughly 3month on 1 month off with no pct! i now no how stupid this was.after 2years off due to low or no sperm count i started again. still didnt no much started with sus and deca tried other compounds such as dbol eq test e test cyp. had a try of test 400 got gyno after a 10 week break it went. after this every course i had i got gyno got rid of it a few times with arimadex or long breaks. then had couple courses of tren masteron anavar . my last course was sus deca naps thse last few courses i used pct hcg nova chlomid which i got the info off here. since then i was takin into hospital with a pain in my heart, once in ther a blood rest showed ny kidneys wernt working. after 5 days a went home. i had various test but they found nothing. as soon as i mentioned steroids they blamed it and that was that! 4month has passed now and i am stil off steroids i amm so unsure due to the lack off knowledge from hospital as to wheather it was caused by steroids. in the next few month i am wanting to start a new cycle but afer all this i dont no where to start any advice would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyer86 View Post
    so this is my first post and i am hoping for some advice and i think this is the best place to look. im am 26 years old 6ft tall 180pounds 11%bodyfat. been training around 6years. when i started training i knew nothing my nutrition was crap and i started taking steroids straight away. sus and deca around 500mg a week of each. i repeated this cycle several times over 2years. roughly 3month on 1 month off with no pct! i now no how stupid this was.after 2years off due to low or no sperm count i started again. still didnt no much started with sus and deca tried other compounds such as dbol eq test e test cyp. had a try of test 400 got gyno after a 10 week break it went. after this every course i had i got gyno got rid of it a few times with arimadex or long breaks. then had couple courses of tren masteron anavar. my last course was sus deca naps thse last few courses i used pct hcg nova chlomid which i got the info off here. since then i was takin into hospital with a pain in my heart, once in ther a blood rest showed ny kidneys wernt working. after 5 days a went home. i had various test but they found nothing. as soon as i mentioned steroids they blamed it and that was that! 4month has passed now and i am stil off steroids i amm so unsure due to the lack off knowledge from hospital as to wheather it was caused by steroids. in the next few month i am wanting to start a new cycle but afer all this i dont no where to start any advice would be appreciated.
    Are you outta your MIND !!!! Havent had a sucessful cycle yet, without some major problems...........

    Go get your blood work done, then a heart stress test, and maybe, just maybe, you,ll see 30

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    You need a full blood panel to determine where you are at this point.

    And i suspect you're going to be surprised at the results after that kind of punishment you just did to your body over the last 4 years or so (gyno, kidney failure..). Wow, is all i can say..

    Not to mention after all your AAS experience you're still only a buck 80 at 6ft? AAS should be the LAST thing on your mind at this point.

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    Holy shit!

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    whilst in hospital i had bloods done repeatedly and everything was normal when i was released i also had a follow up blood test 8weeks later and stil ok. i no all of this was stupid due to lack of knowledge. over the past year i have done a lot of research and i am ready to start over and do things proply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyer86 View Post
    ... i am wanting to start a new cycle but afer all this i dont no where to start any advice would be appreciated.
    Quote Originally Posted by sawyer86 View Post
    whilst in hospital i had bloods done repeatedly and everything was normal when i was released i also had a follow up blood test 8weeks later and stil ok. i no all of this was stupid due to lack of knowledge. over the past year i have done a lot of research and i am ready to start over and do things proply.
    You did a lot of research, but yet you "dont know where to start"???

    You have a lot of reading ahead of you my friend. I suggest you begin now in order to educate and arm yourself with knowledge before you begin ANY AAS cycle.

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    i am always trying to educate myself. i realise what i have done and thats why i have been researching lately. there is so much to learn. i no a lot more than i ever have but obviously have a long way to go thats why im on here just picking up as much as i can all the time. i love training its all i do i just wish i knew then whati no now.

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    What kind of blood tests did you have done?
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    i am unsure now. but the main focus was on my heart liver and kidneys. which were all ok when i came home 4 month ago. ihave since seen a specialist who told me that using creatine can give a false reading for kidneys when tested due to the creatine been stored in the muscle.

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    So you have no idea about your hormones and what readings they are? Mate, before you even think about thinking about cycling again, you need a full hormone panel blood test. And I'm gonna suggest you really learn how to diet because your stats aren't great, get to 200lbs at 11% and then we can talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM
    So you have no idea about your hormones and what readings they are? Mate, before you even think about thinking about cycling again, you need a full hormone panel blood test. And I'm gonna suggest you really learn how to diet because your stats aren't great, get to 200lbs at 11% and then we can talk.
    Stem is right. You don't even have a baseline to know what normal testosterone is for you after cycle and pct. how do you know you have recovered if you haven't defined what recovered for you is?

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    how do i get a blood test like this? can i just request one at me doctors? on the dieting side of things i have tried varios diets fro. pros and never had results yet. i am very interested in this side of things and i am desperate for results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyer86 View Post
    how do i get a blood test like this? can i just request one at me doctors? on the dieting side of things i have tried varios diets fro. pros and never had results yet. i am very interested in this side of things and i am desperate for results.
    I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to get a doctor to okay you to get these panels done. Especially with your history of problems. Also get your free testosterone level checked using the equilibrium dialysis method. I honestly don't think you should be running anything other than doctor approved TRT.

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