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02-10-2013, 09:37 AM #1New Member
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cycle help tren ace/test prop/test E/dbol
6'' 190lb looking to put on about 30 to 40lb,
just strat my cycle monday so is not too late to do some changes,,
I did lots of research i fund some good results for first time tren use but it went hurt to get more infos,
my cycle looks like this:
tren ace 75mg eod 1-6week/
test prop 50mg ed 1-10/
test enanthate 500mg week1-10/
dbol 40mg ed week 1-3/
caber 1 mg per week
PCT
Arimadex
clomid
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02-10-2013, 09:41 AM #2
Why are you taking test in a short and long ester?
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02-10-2013, 10:03 AM #3New Member
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that help to grow NO?? i did lots of research but it's helpful to get more advicese from this sit,whats your advice?? i been on my cycle for 3days so is not too late to do some changes
Last edited by danny777; 02-10-2013 at 10:05 AM.
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02-10-2013, 10:06 AM #4
Last edited by Gaspaco; 02-10-2013 at 10:09 AM.
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02-10-2013, 10:14 AM #5New Member
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Gaspaco should i up the prop dosage if i drop the test E ,by droping the test e do i still get good result? tren ends week6 so keeping prop by it self until the end of the cycle or should i start test E week6-10?
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02-10-2013, 10:20 AM #6
You couldn't of done that much research. You take a short ester or long ester. That is as basic as it gets. Is this your first cycle? If so I wouldn't be playing with tren .
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02-10-2013, 10:21 AM #7
100mg eod or 50 ed will be enough for whole cycle with tren .
Run both for 6-8 week, it is plenty for short esters.
Keep it simple, you will like it!
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02-10-2013, 10:23 AM #8
X2 on this !!!!
either both short or both long, or you will have some serious sides cuz tren ace kicks in fast and test E will take ages
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02-10-2013, 10:26 AM #9
How old are you?
Bodyfat %?
Cycle history?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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02-10-2013, 10:27 AM #10New Member
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Thank Gaspaco tren 100mg eod sounds good.. test prop up dosage to 75mg ed?
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02-10-2013, 10:35 AM #11New Member
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body fat 10-15% i did my first cycle was test sus 8week dbol3week/ my second cycle was test cp and EQ for 10week dbol3week... upgrade for tren thats why i'm asking trying to be very careful
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02-10-2013, 10:39 AM #12
10 or 15% is a MASSIVE difference, which is it? Willing to post a pic. Regardless, you are very light for having done 2 cycles already. When did the last one end and what PCT did you use?
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02-10-2013, 10:49 AM #13New Member
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when i start my first cycle i was 145lb went up to 175lb waited 1year and i did my sc cycle went up to 205lb but last 15lb using anavar but get more cut,, so trying tren cycle but i want to do it the right way i don't care if i put on 15 or 20lb as long it's the right dosage and good mass, advice from Exp ppl will help
my plan as pct Arimadex,
clomid 4week startin last day of my cycle,any better advice?Last edited by danny777; 02-10-2013 at 11:00 AM.
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02-10-2013, 10:59 AM #14Originally Posted by danny777
Arimidex should be run alongside your cycle not as PCT. an you'll need some nolva.
And I'd like to see a pic so we can ascertain your bodyfat.
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02-10-2013, 11:06 AM #15
Danny spend the rest of today reading the sticky threads here. You need to get up to speed on things before you hurt yourself.
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02-10-2013, 11:07 AM #16New Member
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yes blood work done 10/10 now, i know anavar was not the greats but i leared too maney advicese misup things,it's been 2 years so far...
i will post pic working on it
Thanks for your help bro
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02-10-2013, 11:10 AM #17
Danny....you should STOP! Your eperience and knowledge is a mess! You are not prepared for this and really should stop and research B4 you start!
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02-10-2013, 11:13 AM #18
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02-10-2013, 11:15 AM #19
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02-10-2013, 11:27 AM #20
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02-10-2013, 11:30 AM #21
It comes down 100% to the diet...your either at a deficit or increase in cals! Now...thats not to say that there are not some benifits to certain compounds when either buking or cutting but you can do either on any steroid !
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02-10-2013, 11:34 AM #22
Yep I have already backed your statement up. Sad thing is I have read this once or twice before, haha.
Comes right from profiles on steroid .com:
Deca Durabolin Cycle
So where are we? Well, Id be comfortable recommending Deca Durabolin for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again, for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present. Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see paragraph above), just in case.
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02-10-2013, 12:38 PM #23
Back to the original question how old are you? You did a cycle at 140lbs? That just doesn't seem right
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02-10-2013, 12:52 PM #24
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02-10-2013, 01:16 PM #25New Member
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02-10-2013, 01:20 PM #26
Is that recent? That's high teens bf I'm afraid, nowhere near 10%. Please head over to the nutrition forum and read the cutting 101 stickie by GBrice.
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02-10-2013, 01:29 PM #27New Member
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yes recent
Last edited by danny777; 02-10-2013 at 05:44 PM.
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02-10-2013, 01:45 PM #28
Id guess around 16%
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02-10-2013, 01:46 PM #29
It's not near 10% , please stop saying that.
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02-10-2013, 02:06 PM #30
Closer to 20 than 10? Seriously. Look at this
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.URf9nSggGc0NO SOURCES GIVEN
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02-10-2013, 05:06 PM #31
yeah sorry guy, you're in the 18-20% range. No where near 10.
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02-10-2013, 05:40 PM #32New Member
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02-10-2013, 05:42 PM #33New Member
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i was asking for good advice with my cycle,here we are start talking about bodyfat,thx anways,,Gaspaco was the good helper
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02-10-2013, 05:55 PM #34Originally Posted by danny777
You'd be beat off postponing your cycle and losing some bodyfat and learning the basic if the compounds an ancillaries you intend to use.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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02-11-2013, 04:45 PM #35New Member
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anyways thx for the great info bro, i'm been very careful i lowered my dose and it seems working good 50mg eod 150mgweek, it's been 8day so far i gained 5lb i feel strong lots strings lots energia,
but 1thing waking up at night drink a lot of water up to 1liter is that normal??
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02-11-2013, 04:49 PM #36New Member
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Trenbolone Acetate is an oil-based fast-acting injectable steroid .
Trenbolone Acetate ester is very fast acting. Therefore, athletes choosing to use Trenbolone Acetate often find that ED/EOD injections are best for keeping blood levels as consistent as possible.
Trenbolone is the most powerful overall steroid in use by athletes today. It is both highly androgenic and anabolic . Trenbolone Acetate is chemically unable to aromatize, and therefore produces no estrogen build-up. This, along with its high androgenic properties, makes the muscle produced by Trenbolone very hard and defined.
Users of Trenbolone Acetate often report amazing gains in both strength and quality muscle mass, while the fat and water seems to "melt" off. To give one an idea of just how powerful this hormone is as a muscle builder, please note that the powerful steroid Testosterone has an anabolic rating of 100, while Trenbolone has a rating of 500. Trenbolone Acetate is also a powerful fat burning aid, and lots of athletes actually claim that the body will still drop body fat very quickly, even when one's diet isn't very clean.
It is important to note that Trenbolone Acetate will shut one's natural testosterone production down very quickly, thus making a proper PCT protocol a must upon conclusion of a cycle.
Trenbolone can produce all common androgenic side effects. It's also important to note that many users report uncontrollable night sweats while using this substance. To help combat this problem, it's recommended that users try to keep blood levels and stable as possible, and stay in a reasonable dosage range.
Trenbolone Acetate recommended dosage for men 50-150mg/day or eod to keep the side effects low.
Trenbolone Acetate is not recommended for women.
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02-11-2013, 05:59 PM #38New Member
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02-11-2013, 06:15 PM #39
never heard of 20 lbs lean gains in 12 weeks even with tren and perfect diet...i know guys who have awesome diet and gain 10-15 lbs TOPS
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02-11-2013, 06:19 PM #40Originally Posted by Granovich
Dream on.
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