Looking for anyone who has tried or could give me your input on a long run (3+ months) on 5mg Dianabol a day.Found sone write ups on this methon but none recent (within a few years).Good idea/bad idea?
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Looking for anyone who has tried or could give me your input on a long run (3+ months) on 5mg Dianabol a day.Found sone write ups on this methon but none recent (within a few years).Good idea/bad idea?
Personally I think it's a bad idea. You will shut your natural test production for nothing really. Plus any any oral should be ran no longer than 4-6 weeks due to the stress on the liver regardless if amount. Pointless IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by nemesisd
What are your stats?(age,height,weight,training exp...) and cycle history?
i see only negatives and no possible positives with this plan. wouldn't even consider it.
I don't think you should do it, you might fck up your liver.
Bad idea.
5mg a day isn't going to give you any real gains. All you're going to do is shut yourself down for 3 months and then some time. Why the fvck would you even want to do this?
Go with proviron or anavar. Dbol at 5mgs daily is not enough. 50mgs of proviron daily combined with a little test -e works great and can be ran long term. Anavar at low dosages can also be ran long term but low dosages that work for females does not work well for males. When you get up to using higher dosages anavar puts some strain on your liver as well. I do think you can safely use 5 mgs of dbol long term without hurting your liver.
Big man your back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
Long time no see.
5mg of D-Bol a day is a straight waste. I ran 25mg and you barely start to notice its effects.
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Originally Posted by nemesisd
1, Orals should never be run for more than 5 weeks and 2, you are not going to see any results with 5mg ED.
This dbol @ 5 mgs/day isn't about gains. It's a bridge theory which is basically never coming off and bridging cycles with a low dose of some random steroid to help preserve lean mass that might be lost during pct.
This is a horrible idea. A low dose of dbol is going to have an extremely limited effect. It is going to keep you shut down and prevent recovery. And an extended period of time being 'essentially on cycle' is going to virtually guarantee you never recovery once you finally do come off.
Want to be injecting testosterone weekly for the rest of your life? The above is a perfect recipe for that.
I was in a car wreck and was offer anavar to assist in recovery. Doctor was prepared to prescribe at 25mgs/day for 8-10 weeks. I couldn't afford it as it was a level 3 drug and my out of pocket was stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron-56
Fwiw.
Wise words swm1972.
Guys, the idea that all orals should be limited to 5 or 6 weeks, regardless of dose, is just stupid. Liver toxicity is dose-dependent and 5mg of dbol won't do much to your liver enzymes (nor will it do much good at all).
this is true, the liver is quite resilient and has been shown to regenerate quite well even when more then half of it's been lost. 5mg of dbol though is a complete waste of time bridging or not. mod grf1-29 and ghrp's would be a much better bridge, and even help to restore a damaged liver at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte
at 5mg/day? Are you being sarcastic?Quote:
Originally Posted by sixfootseven
No, he is not being sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JWP806
OP is suggesting a long run (3+ months) of Dinabol. Nonetheless, Dianabol is a toxic compound and even at 5mg ED it will certainly cause an X amount of liver damage when someone stays on it for so long.
It may not fck up his liver, but there will be some damage, and the amount of this damage will be determined by many other variables.
Only because the liver is quite resilient and has the capability of regenerating itself shouldn't mean we follow a routine to deliberately cause damage to it now, should it?Quote:
Originally Posted by kmms
I would be more careful with the type of knowledge I am about to share, considering that this is a steroid forum and majority of participants are already involved in numerous detrimental practices simply out of lack of proper knowledge about compound use as well as lack of experience. What would be the point of adding another one to those practices such as encouraging one to stay on 5mg of Dianabol for more than 3 months?
from the looks of it, you've ignored each of my other posts in this very thread which very clearly state that it is a stupid thing to do, as well as the post i quoted in that last response and by doing that you've removed the context and allowed yourself to go off on a misguided tangent. your loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer
No, I haven't ignored each of your other posts in this thread and the only reason why I removed that comment from the context and commented on it alone is solely because I know how many self-destructive idiots there are on this forum who will do the same for the sake of building an argument for themselves and jump to a retarded conclusion that liver will eventually regenerate itself, thus anything goes. It is indeed a retarded rationalization but they will do it, you may not have spent as much time on this forum to observe this but this is unfortunately how it is. I am also ignoring your ''stupid thing to do'' comment that direct targets me and my action for the sake of preventing this from turning into a useless polemic between two people who don't at all know anything about each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmms
why would someone put 5mg of dbol in there, that's a cruising dose, so your gonna cruise and shut down your test at same time? might as well jump head first in a pool with no water? you will certainly get better results
bullshit. you didn't read any of this ****ing thread before you commented and now you're backtracking and making shit up to cover for your lack of reading comprehension. are you on your period or are you just ****ing retarded?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer
Please don't make this thread a personnal vendetta. This forum is for people's opinions not name calling!Quote:
Originally Posted by kmms
As I have stated before, there are many young & inexperienced AAS users on this forum and elsewhere who will hold on to the very argument that liver is the most resilient organ in human body and also the only organ that can regenerate the way it does; thus, it wouldn't ''really matter'' if they cycled Anadrol 50 @100mg for 12 weeks, which is a true story that has consistently repeated itself on this forum.
Now I am at the verge of questioning why a flamer was given the productive member title in the first place? I don't see anything productive coming out of his keyboard, nothing but pure passive-aggressive behavioral pattern with a touch of petulance; typical of internet keyboard warrior personality type.
Lay of the Test bro, it's not for those who cannot control themselves. We don't need people with personality issues here.
Why dont you relax and stop acting like a child. Disagree all you want, No need to disrespect another member.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmms
I'm curious how 5mg of dbol a day would shut you down ? Isn't its half life only 4-6 hours? That being said its out of your system the next day anyways?
So anytime they prescribe dbol to a patient they are going to get shut down also and need PCT? I'm just trying to get my head wrapped around this...
I agree with the fact that this is a bad idea. But I want to point out a few things:
-5mg ED is NOT a low dose. 10mg ED was how much Arnold was using for a while. The dosages have gone up a lot in the past few years because (a) people are overzealous (b) AIs have been incorporated
-5mg will hardly damage your liver. Your liver is a powerful organ...it's the only "reptilian" like organ that can regenerate itself completely. I know TurkishJuicer might be against this...I am not saying it will not do anything bad...but its definitely no where close to what 100mg Anadrol would do...or even 6 beers might. Best bet is to rely on bloodwork.
-Shutdown will be minimal if taken in the AM. Most of the natural test is produced while we sleep. If you take the 5mg at 6AM, you will pretty much be "natural" when you go to bed. Also, look at studies showing only 60% shutdown in natty test after 50mg ED for 6 weeks.
In fact, I cannot think of many reasons AGAINST 5mg. But at the same time, I would never do such a low level because....well...why settle for mediocre gains when I can safely run higher dosages?
You would barely be able to tell a difference in muscle mass. You might take it an hour before a workout for some increased aggression plus slightly better recovery and protein synthesis.
Good viewpoint ....Quote:
Originally Posted by MuttonChop
My only concern is who is to say there isn't a diminishing return in the negative feedback? Ok 50mg = 60%. What if 5mg = 20 or 30%. You see that 5mg providing benefits to offset the lower testosterone? Even if its only 10% reduced, I don't see it as a positive net result.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuttonChop
Further, i assume he is talking about a bridge post cycle. He would already be shut down. How bad will this effect recovery? Negatively.
5mg over time is going to supress your natural HPTA. 3 months is too long IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by nemesisd
^^^ This!Quote:
Originally Posted by swm1972;63***21
My only wish is that a greater number of people on this board would eventually lean towards listening to people with years of immense experiences with AAS instead of constructing theoretical approaches to subjects as such.
Keeping my fingers crossed...
This makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by swm1972;63***21
PArnold used 300 mgs of dbol per day not 10 mgs!Quote:
Originally Posted by MuttonChop
So they say...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
the dbol nowadays is crap compare to them british pink dragons, those things were tha bomb depress that they don't make them anymore.. :( and I wouldn't ever do 5mg for a cycle, I'd push 20-30mg atleast to be worth something, or else why put your body into shut down for 5mg? it's absolutely pointless
dbol alone is normally pretty stupid unless your cruising, and if not then do a decent dose worth your time..
hey is anyone able to tell me if 100 mg of dbol a day is to much
Yes. a beginner can get away with about 25-30 a day. 50 is the upper end of what you'd want to take. at 100 you're just getting bloat. Also...this thread was over a year old. youre allowed to start your own new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by kodiink