pct and test-e bloat

[upperhandy]

quick pct question:

have done:
12 wk 500mg test-e
16 wk 500mg test-e + 600mg eq

used standard clomid/nolva 50/20 as PCT
great (almost overkill) for 12 wk, 16wk was a bit rough

question 1) vets think clomid 50 would work out well for a 10-12wk 250mg test-e? (trying to stay on the side of using minimal effective dose.)

question 2) bloat was somewhat noticable on both cycles (not a problem as they were bulks), but am going for conditioning/cutting this time... i'm guessing bloat will be less of an issue b/c of the lower dose, thoughts?

[bigsiv]

quick pct question:

have done:
12 wk 500mg test-e
16 wk 500mg test-e + 600mg eq

used standard clomid/nolva 50/20 as PCT
great (almost overkill) for 12 wk, 16wk was a bit rough

question 1) vets think clomid 50 would work out well for a 10-12wk 250mg test-e? (trying to stay on the side of using minimal effective dose.)

question 2) bloat was somewhat noticable on both cycles (not a problem as they were bulks), but am going for conditioning/cutting this time... i'm guessing bloat will be less of an issue b/c of the lower dose, thoughts?

1) 250mgs will shut you down for not much more test than you produce. 500mgs is better IMO

2) Bloat/water retention is either down to diet or your A.i. Where those in check?

Cutting will be determined by your diet

[redz]

Doesn't look like you ran an ai before that would help alot with bloat. For pct clomid and nolva would still be better and as noted above 250mg is not much more than some use for TRT.

[upperhandy]

Doesn't look like you ran an ai before that would help alot with bloat. For pct clomid and nolva would still be better and as noted above 250mg is not much more than some use for TRT.

I'm pretty sure that at 250mg test-e a week levels will be at about 3x normal ...

bloat was not a super serious issue, but was noticeable to me...I was running an ai and my diet was relatively clean... the one thing that I have gotten much better at is increasing my water intake... i don't think i was drinking enough water which probably contributed to my bloat

[redz]

I'm pretty sure that at 250mg test-e a week levels will be at about 3x normal ...

Some TRT protocls are in the 150mg+/week. All that being said I still wouldnt bother with 250mg of Test its just not worth the shut down.