Masteron: How useful is it?

[MuttonChop]

Hi folks,

What are your opinions on Masteron? I just got bloodwork done and everything is so perfectly fine that I am extending my 12 week Tren/Test cycle to a 16 week one. I am going to use the last 4 weeks to lean out. I will be using short esters or orals to be able to start PCT from week 17.

I am running:

150mg pw Test E
300mg pw Tren E

I was thinking of adding a DHT derivative like Masteron for the last 4 weeks. But would this be worth it? What dosages would I have to use?

The things that are stopping me from using it are:

- Tren being so powerful, Mast might be a waste of money (esp. since I don't compete)
- I could just go with Winny...I wouldn't even have to pin ED
- 4 weeks might not be enough for it to do it's magic

So, what do you think?

Stats:

6 feet
235 lbs
14% bf

[marcus300]

I would come off and recover, 12 weks worth of test and tren is harsh anyway and trying to recover from a 16 wk one will be very challenging to say the least.

Masteron is great for contest prep or cutting cycle, no point in using it if your 14% bf because you wont really benefit from it. Its something to use once your bf is down because this compound is amazing at giving a granite appearance to your muscles and a super hardness what nothing else comes close to

[Granovich]

as marcus said 12 weeks of testosterone and trenbolone is enough , no need to extend it... save the rest for another run. start pct and next time you can lower your BF before starting cycle so you can use masteron

[MuttonChop]

I would come off and recover, 12 weks worth of test and tren is harsh anyway and trying to recover from a 16 wk one will be very challenging to say the least.

Masteron is great for contest prep or cutting cycle, no point in using it if your 14% bf because you wont really benefit from it. Its something to use once your bf is down because this compound is amazing at giving a granite appearance to your muscles and a super hardness what nothing else comes close to

Thanks Marcus. One of the reasons I wanted to extend the cycle was that I was on 200mg of Tren for the first 3 weeks...I feel like I wasted a few weeks there...200mg Tren E without the ester is less than 140mg pw...=(

P.S: I really like your constantly changing avatar pics. The best one was the masked man.

as marcus said 12 weeks of testosterone and trenbolone is enough , no need to extend it... save the rest for another run. start pct and next time you can lower your BF before starting cycle so you can use masteron

Thanks Granovich. I only do 1 cycle per year...so if I don't maximize my gains this cycle...I have to wait a whole year =( . But I agree with your advice...I am just feeling a bit dangerous (and stupid because I started this cycle with too low a dose of Tren).

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With the above info, would you guys still say the same thing?

[Lunk1]

Mast has some great advantages when run along side of a tren test cycle but the dosages in my experience need to be rather high 600mg EW or better and 4 weeks would not gain any benifit. Consider it for the next run and stop clean on this one!

[MuttonChop]

Mast has some great advantages when run along side of a tren test cycle but the dosages in my experience need to be rather high 600mg EW or better and 4 weeks would not gain any benifit. Consider it for the next run and stop clean on this one!

Thanks Lunk. I am definitely siding towards not using it anymore.

What would you guys say about just extending my cycle to 14 weeks with Tren/Test? Again, only because:

1) My bloodwork came out very clean
2) I wasted the first 3 weeks with just 100mg pw Test and 200mg pw Tren.

[Lunk1]

Thanks Lunk. I am definitely siding towards not using it anymore.

What would you guys say about just extending my cycle to 14 weeks with Tren/Test? Again, only because:

1) My bloodwork came out very clean
2) I wasted the first 3 weeks with just 100mg pw Test and 200mg pw Tren.

14 weeks is not the end of the world...go for it!

[marcus300]

Thanks Lunk. I am definitely siding towards not using it anymore.

What would you guys say about just extending my cycle to 14 weeks with Tren/Test? Again, only because:

1) My bloodwork came out very clean
2) I wasted the first 3 weeks with just 100mg pw Test and 200mg pw Tren.

You didnt waste the first 3 wks, I would come off and recover, the added few weeks will make no difference but can make more of a difference in recovery and sides, longer doesnt mean better gains/bigger

[MuttonChop]

I have decided to stick with 12 weeks. Thanks everyone.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Masterone gives you drier gains when used with test because it lowers estrogen some. It also magnifies the effects of test by binding shbg and freeing up more test. But like Marcus said recovering from a test and tren cycle is a chore. Tren is harder to recover from than test in terms of regaining your libido.

[largerthannormal]

In addition to Marcus's statement , most people do not continuously grow for 12+ weeks.. growth happens in short bursts,

This is a reason we utilize burst cycles not to mention the longer your on the tougher it will be to restimulate everything and you have a greater chance of loosing most if not all your gains if recovery is done in an ideal fashion

Also I see no hcg implemented in your cycle

[Ronnie Rowland]

In addition to Marcus's statement , most people do not continuously grow for 12+ weeks.. growth happens in short bursts,

This is a reason we utilize burst cycles not to mention the longer your on the tougher it will be to restimulate everything and you have a greater chance of loosing most if not all your gains if recovery is done in an ideal fashion

Also I see no hcg implemented in your cycle

True. Most do not gain past 8 weeks unless they increase their dosage by a considerable margin. 8 week cycles are best IMO.