injection and measurment confusion?

**zx7racing** · 05-10-2003, 03:09 PM

-copied from another thread-TT Makes a 300 mg deca , and yes QV does also. Find out what mg deca you have per 300mg (1 CC). Therefore if you are planning on doing 300mg a week of deca, and let's say you have TT or QV 300mg Deca, that would be 1CC per week.

is there a formula or some type of reference someone could post to describe in detail how this whole conversion thing works?
my confusion lays in the whole mg, ml, and cc... and i cant really put together the rational- everyone talks about their cycle- doses a wk etc.. but when you look at an amp and a needle for the first time, its pretty confusing-

maybe if someone gave a good description this could go in the educational thread- i've looked and havent found the details i'm looking for..
thanx

**Rickson** · 05-10-2003, 03:27 PM

Mg's describe the strength of the solution and is usually measured per ml. If you have 300 mg/ml of deca then every ml contains 300 mg's of deca. 1 ml=1 CC. So 1 cc of 300mg/ml deca contains 300mg per cc of deca. If you are still confused just tell us what you have and we will tell you how much to put in the syringe.

**Tock** · 05-10-2003, 03:37 PM

1 cc (cubic centimeter) equals 1 ml (milliliter)
which is, by the way, also equal to the volume of one gram of water. And one calorie (of heat, including the calories you burn on the treadmill) will raise one cc of water one degree celsius.
To put all this in perspective, one liter is roughly one quart. Divide the volume of, say, a quart of milk, by 1000 and you're pretty darn close to
1 cc, which as I previously mentioned, is also 1 ml.

Ok . . . now if someone sends you something with 100 mg per cc, and you want to take 100 mg per week, then . . . you would take 1 cc per week.
If you have something with 200 mg per cc, and you want 100 mg per week, you would take 1/2 cc per week.
If you have something with 200 mg per cc, and you want 400 mg per week, you would take 2 cc per week.

See how this works?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . number of cc's you take
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _____________________________
. number of mg per cc | number of mg you want to take

Again, suppose you have something at 200 mg per cc
and you want to take 200 mg per week
that would be
. . ___1_____
. . 200 | 200
and you would take 1 cc per week.

Try this: you have some fina at 150 mg per cc
and you want to take 75 mg per day
that would be
. . _ .5 __
. . 150 | 75

and you would take one half (.5) cc a day.

Now figure this out . . .
If a shipment of deca leaves New York for Los Angeles on a USPS truck at an average speed of 50 mph, and a shipment of Test Cyp leaves Los Angeles for New York on a UPS truck at an average sped of 75 mph, where will they meet?

Hope this helps . .
--Tock

**Tock** · 05-10-2003, 03:41 PM

oops . . . screen editor didnt' put the spaces where I wanted . . . trying again . . .
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See how this works?

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . number of cc's you take
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _____________________________
. number of mg per cc | number of mg you want to take

Again, suppose you have something at 200 mg per cc
and you want to take 200 mg per week
that would be
. . . . . ___1_____
. . 200 | 200
and you would take 1 cc per week.

Try this: you have some fina at 150 mg per cc
and you want to take 75 mg per day
that would be
. . . . . _ .5 __
. . 150 | 75

and you would take one half (.5) cc a day.

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**zx7racing** · 05-10-2003, 03:42 PM

-rickson- dont have anything right now, just trying to get the leg work out of the way, so when the time comes, there wont be any confusion..

but the way i understand it- for example, i have 1 vial of sustanon 250, and a 23ga. 1" 3 cc needle and i wanna poke my thigh- does that 1 vial of sus equate to filling my pin to 1 cc? or does the vial of sus250 (250mg) make the 1 cc?
am i making this more confusing that what it really is?

**zx7racing** · 05-10-2003, 03:59 PM

why would a ups and a usps truck meet?
TOCK- you explained this remarkibly. last question, dose your amps, vials, etc come with that conversion listed, or do you have to find that info somewhere else?
ex: sus250 = what cc?

**Tock** · 05-10-2003, 04:21 PM

TOCK- you explained this remarkibly. last question, dose your amps, vials, etc come with that conversion listed, or do you have to find that info somewhere else?
ex: sus250 = what cc?
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How to tell what strength your stuff is . . . hmmm . . . weeeelll, if it isn't marked on the package, your supplier should be able to tell you. If he can't, well, there's no telling what's in that bottle. And if your supplier doesn't know what's in the bottle, maybe you should think twice about taking it . . .
. And yeah, if it says Sustanon 250, I would think it means 250 mg per cc. If not, I'm sure someone will straighten us out . . .
--Tock

**Rickson** · 05-10-2003, 04:32 PM

Your amp will have 1 cc in it. That one cc contains 250mgs of test. When you fill the syringe with all the liquid from the amp then it should equal 1cc=1ml=250mg. Now you can also have bottles with more than 1ml such as a 10 ml vial. That will contain 10 ml=10cc=2500mg's of test. You would still only fill your syringe with 1 cc if you wanted to get 250mg's.

**zx7racing** · 05-10-2003, 05:09 PM

-TOCK i was under the same assumption that sus 250 refers to the mg... so sus250 is 250 mg which equals 1 cc. right?
still rather the novice, so i want to make sure before hand- and your right about knowing whats in your happy bottle before taking anything- that should go without saying to anyone...
read about the amor all story and everyone will think twice- at least you should...
thanks again

**zx7racing** · 05-10-2003, 05:22 PM

this all may sound fundamental for a lot of people, but how else are you suppose to know?
maybe a moderator would like to move this to the edu threads..
thanks TOCK and rickson

**Tock** · 05-11-2003, 04:00 PM

-TOCK i was under the same assumption that sus 250 refers to the mg... so sus250 is 250 mg which equals 1 cc. right?

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Yes, if I had something marked "sus250" I'd assume it was 250 mg per cc. That is the convention.
Now if you get a bottle and all it has marked on it is "sus250" and nothing else, I'd be wary of using it, unless I was very very sure about the integrity of my source, and of his sources. From what I understand, there are people out there who don't give a rat's ass about what they put in a bottle and sell, so long as they get their $$$.
. Even if your bottle has print all over it, it still may be fake . . . and you'll have to ask some other folks about identifying fakes, I don't know anything about that. I get all mine by prescription from my doc (HRT) . . .

Good luck, keep reading up on this, know what you're doing and what you're using before you push that plunger.
--Tock