long run cycle ????

[slumchop]

Im on test e 300mg/wk and nandro deca 150mg/wk, doing a 12 week cycle. my buddy is on the same exact cycle as me, he wants to cycle directly from this to sustanon 250, running a shot every 4 days. for another 10-12 weeks? im not to keen on this one. but he is 32 and he is going to do his own thing no matter what i say. I am coming off the deca in 2 weeks and i plan to stay on test e for another 10 weeks but im going up to 500mg/wk. i am running an AI (aromasin) i have letro, prami, nolva, and clomid on hand.

whats your thoughts on this?

[redz]

How long were you on the sus/deca so far?

[slumchop]

i wasnt on sus/deca, im on test E 300 and deca. ive got 8 weeks in. i always stop the deca 2 weeks before the test. so at week 10 i stop deca and run just the test for 2 more weeks and than go 2 weeks than start pct. but i was thinking at week 12 going up to 500mg a week of test E for another 10 weeks before i go into PCT

[livingthedream]

Your saying you both are gonna run 22 weeks total. That seems like a long time to me. But I am stil a newb. From what I understand test is test and doesn't really matter if you switch esters. So in essence you are both gonna to be doing a similar plan.

[slumchop]

Your saying you both are gonna run 22 weeks total. That seems like a long time to me. But I am stil a newb. From what I understand test is test and doesn't really matter if you switch esters. So in essence you are both gonna to be doing a similar plan.

Ive seen some not cycle off for years. not uncommon from my experience especially when its one compound. I dont think i would run a long cycle on multiple compounds.

Ive seen and have run SUST and test at the same time, the test was to stabilize the ups and downs though. but to run a test and than go into sustanon ive never seen, ive tried explaining the ups and downs of sustanon to him, but he wont listen. I think thats why he is going to pin every 3-4 days.

[redz]

Ive seen some not cycle off for years. not uncommon from my experience especially when its one compound.

You are setting yourself up for trt with this mentality. Test is test, changing from test e to sus doesnt concern me its the length of the cycles.

[slumchop]

You are setting yourself up for trt with this mentality. Test is test, changing from test e to sus doesnt concern me its the length of the cycles.

sorry, shouldve have been specific. the longest ive run is 12 weeks. i am no fan of not cycling off. I really believe the body needs that time to clear the receptors and just do its own thing.

[warmouth]

Gains will also slow drastically and the risk to reward by then is not worth it. You need to give yourself time to recover, even if go back on soon, you need to let your body normalize.'

[MickeyKnox]

Im on test e 300mg/wk and nandro deca 150mg/wk, doing a 12 week cycle. my buddy is on the same exact cycle as me, he wants to cycle directly from this to sustanon 250, running a shot every 4 days. for another 10-12 weeks? im not to keen on this one. but he is 32 and he is going to do his own thing no matter what i say. I am coming off the deca in 2 weeks and i plan to stay on test e for another 10 weeks but im going up to 500mg/wk. i am running an AI (aromasin) i have letro, prami, nolva, and clomid on hand.

whats your thoughts on this?

Your plan and your buddies plan is virtually the same thing.

His is 250 E4D for a total of 24wks..and yours is 250 E3.5D for a total of 22wks. Am i missing something here??

[slumchop]

Gains will also slow drastically and the risk to reward by then is not worth it. You need to give yourself time to recover, even if go back on soon, you need to let your body normalize.'

after lots of reading tonight. Ive decided to call it at 12 weeks. thanks!

[slumchop]

Your plan and your buddies plan is virtually the same thing.

His is 250 E4D for a total of 24wks..and yours is 250 E3.5D for a total of 22wks. Am i missing something here??

just your thoughts on it but you are right though. im not going out 22 wks after reading tonight about long term high does amounts, on things llike LH, pituitary, and hypothalamus, gyno and many other issues it doesnt seem logical or safely viable. im not young or old but i dont want long term problems

[MickeyKnox]

just your thoughts on it but you are right though. im not going out 22 wks after reading tonight about long term high does amounts, on things llike LH, pituitary, and hypothalamus, gyno and many other issues it doesnt seem logical or safely viable. im not young or old but i dont want long term problems

My point was that your answer is contained in your original post.

You didn't like the idea of your buddies plan, then you should feel the same about your own as it is similar...which you do. Good call bro.

[ScotchGuard02]

I like shorter cycles. Test Prop 500mg/wk for 8 weeks, 3 day rest, 4 week PCT. You're done in 12 weeks. The longer one is on a cycle the more difficult it is for the endo to recover. When I run a 12wk Test E cycle I find that I don't get too much gains in the last 2 or 3 weeks.

[slumchop]

My point was that your answer is contained in your original post.

You didn't like the idea of your buddies plan, then you should feel the same about your own as it is similar...which you do. Good call bro.

ultimately it was a stupid question for me to ask, but i guess sometimes you need to see your thoughts in a different context than in your head. which after i wrote the post and did a little reading i realized how retarded i sounded even asking the question.