PROS and CONS of blasting and cursing?

[RyanGreg]

For my next cycle i was considering blasting and cursing................ I have done many cycle in the past....

- will i still be able to have children?

- will i have to come off to have children?

- other pros and cons?

[ScotchGuard02]

How old are you and what's your cycle history? You have to do PCT if you want your natural Test levels to rise. If you're doing cruising and blasting your body won't have time to get back to "normal". However it only takes 1 sperm cell to create life. There might be a chance you can get your woman pregnant. I've been on TRT for about 3 years and my total ejaculation is runny and thin. My testicles are about 1/3 their original size. I can get the job done but I doubt my wife will get pregnant. I already have kids so I'm not worried. If you want kids you should just cycle followed by a PCT. Kids are pretty great. They're worth taking some time off to get your wife pregnant. Good luck.

[MickeyKnox]

When cursing, its best not to do so in front of youngsters. And if you want to have children, cursing is not recommended when trying to conceive - the woman don't like it...but dirty talk is ok.

But seriously, blasting and cruising is not really recommended when trying to make babies. I would come off everything and have bloodwork done.

Is it possible? Yes. Lots of guys have been able to conceive while on cycle, and some of them didn't want to! But also, a ton of them weren't.

So again, if you're serious about it, do it right.

[Armykid93]

No you probably won't be able to have kids. Blasting and cruising us a huge commitment though. Not to be taken likely and only really worth it if you want a paycheck from a sport imo

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[iSwanson]

Priorities?
Is being able to have a nuclear family more important to you than this lifestyle? Why do you need to blast and cruise, are you going pro? Should probably list your reasoning behind wanting to blast and criuse.

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[Lunk1]

If your on TRT then that is what you are doing anytyime you cycle! If you are not on TRT then I would weigh heavily your goals vs. the risk! The risk of being on TRT for the rest of your life increase dramaticly!

Cycling with time off is a much safer method for most who are simply trying to look better in the mirror!

[fit2bOld]

Dude your 24 and and this is the most idiotic thing you could do. So you basicly want to destroy your HPTA system over putting on a few pounds of muscle. Didn't you just compete and finish a cycle.? Where are the photos? Let's see what you look like.

[jimmyinkedup]

I will share more on this in a bit when I have more time but cruising isnt all its cracked up to be . Not at all. Will post more in a bit...

[Crooktele79]

I'm interested to know if blasting and cruising is healthier than cycling...assuming your cruises are TRT doses(100mg/wk) and also accepting the fact that you will probably be on TRT for the remainder of your life?

[kronik420]

I'm interested to know if blasting and cruising is healthier than cycling...assuming your cruises are TRT doses(100mg/wk) and also accepting the fact that you will probably be on TRT for the remainder of your life?

i think it would be 'healthier' to use your own natural test, rather than having to rely on exogenous test...

[kelkel]

I think someone said you're 24. Well, unless you've got a pro card in sight and make a living from this endeavor then it's ridiculous, IMO. Hopefully you've got another 60 years on this planet. Think of your health, not your ego.

[Crooktele79]

i think it would be 'healthier' to use your own natural test, rather than having to rely on exogenous test...

I definitely agree...but let's say you have a male in his 40's who doesnt want more kids and has normal test levels. If he decides he wants to pursue this lifestyle, which would be worse for his longevity?...being on TRT or cycling and having his endocrine system continually turned on its head?

[< <Samson> >]

For sure, a life long blast and cruise is not what it's cracked up to be.

I been "on" going on 4 months. Ran a 60 day cycle and dropped to a TRT type dose. The idea of pins for life sounds like shit. My bawls are taking a beating(and not a good kind) even though I'm running HCG.


In about 3 months I will be coming off and running a heavy 6 week PCT. I just hope I recover. . . & I have a damn near decade on OP.


Just not worth it. But, yes I do feel and look better and get some pumps from the juice still.

I guess it is still in the eye of the beholder. You just don't want to be the guy looking back saying "fvck, why did I do that".

[The Bear 79]

I agree, unless you're intentions are to be an IFBB pro or something of the like, this should not be an option.

And you have to be real with yourself, nobody knows your body like you do, do you have what it takes to walk the stage with Jay Cutler & Ronnie Coleman, & when I say "what it takes" I mean genetically, are you a runt pretending to be big behind the guise of steroids or have you always been large framed & muscular?

What I'm getting at is, steroids alone won't get you to that stage, be real with yourself, don't say "I'm gonna blast & cruise because I want to be an IFBB pro" when you know you'll never make it. That would be an ignorant & costly justification.

[largerthannormal]

lol i was waiting for this....

When cursing, its best not to do so in front of youngsters. And if you want to have children, cursing is not recommended when trying to conceive - the woman don't like it...but dirty talk is ok.

But seriously, blasting and cruising is not really recommended when trying to make babies. I would come off everything and have bloodwork done.

Is it possible? Yes. Lots of guys have been able to conceive while on cycle, and some of them didn't want to! But also, a ton of them weren't.

So again, if you're serious about it, do it right.

[jimmyinkedup]

When cursing, its best not to do so in front of youngsters. And if you want to have children, cursing is not recommended when trying to conceive - the woman don't like it...but dirty talk is ok.

But seriously, blasting and cruising is not really recommended when trying to make babies. I would come off everything and have bloodwork done.

Is it possible? Yes. Lots of guys have been able to conceive while on cycle, and some of them didn't want to! But also, a ton of them weren't.

So again, if you're serious about it, do it right.

Hilarious and accurate! lol

Ok so Cruising. Well I was in my early(ish) 40's. My off cycle test levels were in the high 600's. Damn good right-esp given my age and cycle history?
I decided for some brilliant reason I was going to cruise. I did it "right". Spent a lot of time in trt section here..learned a ton from guys like kel and vette and gdev. Its an amazing section with a wealth of knowledge. Anyway I settled on 225mgs test and 150 mgs deca/week. That was my cruise. I started off using stane but swapped back to dex after struggling to get e2 correct. Ok Im going along feeling good. Sex drive up etc. Taking all the trt precautions, dhea preg hcg. I was liking it. Then after about 2 months it all went away. It was like cruising became normal. No elevated sex drive, no elevated sense of well being, no alpha felings. Just blah. Just like off cycle only Im injecting 375mgs exogenous hormones every wek. Also gains wise initially I thought wow this is nice holding gains etc. That also stabilizes. All in all my "cruise" experiment has not yielded what I had hoped. I am doing a peptide log and have a couple more months so im going to finish out cruise. I dont want to skew my results or evauation of peps. After that I am coming off and doing an restart protocol. Even in my 40's all in all my take is I'll do trt or "cruise" when I have no other choice. Lesson learned.

[blacktoppete]

Hilarious and accurate! lol

Ok so Cruising. Well I was in my early(ish) 40's. My off cycle test levels were in the high 600's. Damn good right-esp given my age and cycle history?
I decided for some brilliant reason I was going to cruise. I did it "right". Spent a lot of time in trt section here..learned a ton from guys like kel and vette and gdev. Its an amazing section with a wealth of knowledge. Anyway I settled on 225mgs test and 150 mgs deca/week. That was my cruise. I started off using stane but swapped back to dex after struggling to get e2 correct. Ok Im going along feeling good. Sex drive up etc. Taking all the trt precautions, dhea preg hcg. I was liking it. Then after about 2 months it all went away. It was like cruising became normal. No elevated sex drive, no elevated sense of well being, no alpha felings. Just blah. Just like off cycle only Im injecting 375mgs exogenous hormones every wek. Also gains wise initially I thought wow this is nice holding gains etc. That also stabilizes. All in all my "cruise" experiment has not yielded what I had hoped. I am doing a peptide log and have a couple more months so im going to finish out cruise. I dont want to skew my results or evauation of peps. After that I am coming off and doing an restart protocol. Even in my 40's all in all my take is I'll do trt or "cruise" when I have no other choice. Lesson learned.

I agree with you 100%. I am on Trt for life at the age of 45 and it sucks.

[MR-FQ320]

I agree with you 100%. I am on Trt for life at the age of 45 and it sucks.

Why does it suck ? Surely you just pin once a week and you feel ok, that's it.

[MuscleInk]

I think someone said you're 24. Well, unless you've got a pro card in sight and make a living from this endeavor then it's ridiculous, IMO. Hopefully you've got another 60 years on this planet. Think of your health, not your ego.

^^^this is all that needs to be said. I have yet to hear a convincing argument that an otherwise healthy 24 year old should be blasting and cruising. That's tantamount to abuse. If your natural testosterone is in normal ranges off cycle, there is NO legitimate reason to be "cruising" on TRT doses when said therapy is not clinically indicated.

Don't abuse your body or the gear.

[< <Samson> >]

And you have to be real with yourself, nobody knows your body like you do, do you have what it takes to walk the stage with Jay Cutler & Ronnie Coleman, & when I say "what it takes" I mean genetically, are you a runt pretending to be big behind the guise of steroids or have you always been large framed & muscular?

I completely agree, but even Jay couldn't have known he was destined to be what he is today.

[Bio-Active]

Hilarious and accurate! lol

Ok so Cruising. Well I was in my early(ish) 40's. My off cycle test levels were in the high 600's. Damn good right-esp given my age and cycle history?
I decided for some brilliant reason I was going to cruise. I did it "right". Spent a lot of time in trt section here..learned a ton from guys like kel and vette and gdev. Its an amazing section with a wealth of knowledge. Anyway I settled on 225mgs test and 150 mgs deca/week. That was my cruise. I started off using stane but swapped back to dex after struggling to get e2 correct. Ok Im going along feeling good. Sex drive up etc. Taking all the trt precautions, dhea preg hcg. I was liking it. Then after about 2 months it all went away. It was like cruising became normal. No elevated sex drive, no elevated sense of well being, no alpha felings. Just blah. Just like off cycle only Im injecting 375mgs exogenous hormones every wek. Also gains wise initially I thought wow this is nice holding gains etc. That also stabilizes. All in all my "cruise" experiment has not yielded what I had hoped. I am doing a peptide log and have a couple more months so im going to finish out cruise. I dont want to skew my results or evauation of peps. After that I am coming off and doing an restart protocol. Even in my 40's all in all my take is I'll do trt or "cruise" when I have no other choice. Lesson learned.

100% agree but I even notice things level out for me on cycle. Regardless of the dose after about six weeks everything levels out for me and I really don't have feeling of being ON anymore.

[RyanGreg]

what about blast and PCT for the cruise then blast again? ...Or is that just stupid lol............

[warmouth]

what about blast and PCT for the cruise then blast again? ...Or is that just stupid lol............

That's not blast and cruise. That's just on, on, on.

[Sociabear]

I see the major con is being no children and if you arnt trying to seriously compete its frankly stupid to blast and cruise.

I have made my decision to put my health on the line to become what I have dreamt of as long as I can remember. Ya I'll do blood work all the right things but lets face it , the doses and duration are hard on your health at some level regardless. Just understand and accept that before you commit.

Cruise ATM -
Sust 250
T enth - 200
Deca - 200
Adex - .25mg eod

Upcoming blast
400 test
400 tren
400 eq
Adex

[kronik420]

I see the major con is being no children and if you arnt trying to seriously compete its frankly stupid to blast and cruise.

I have made my decision to put my health on the line to become what I have dreamt of as long as I can remember. Ya I'll do blood work all the right things but lets face it , the doses and duration are hard on your health at some level regardless. Just understand and accept that before you commit.

Cruise ATM -
Sust 250
T enth - 200
Deca - 200
Adex - .25mg eod

Upcoming blast
400 test
400 tren
400 eq
Adex

you might wanna tweak this....

[Sociabear]

Not to hijack but that blast is quite a popular stack right now from my area. I'll be running 5iu rhgh everyday and 8-10iu Slin pre workout.

Curious what your input is on tweaking

[kronik420]

Not to hijack but that blast is quite a popular stack right now from my area. I'll be running 5iu rhgh everyday and 8-10iu Slin pre workout.

Curious what your input is on tweaking

for a start, why are you cruising on sust and test e? why not just the test e? and is that 250mg (sust) and 200mg (test e) /week ?

[Sociabear]

Well I love sust 250 honestly. I've always found that sust and enth together have great synergy for me, I see more gains that running just test e.

Yes it's 450 total test 200 deca so 650 a week total.

This is the method my old man and I decided on.
Running a higher cruise then switching the compounds and high dose blast.

[stpete]

Well I love sust 250 honestly. I've always found that sust and enth together have great synergy for me, I see more gains that running just test e.

Yes it's 450 total test 200 deca so 650 a week total.

This is the method my old man and I decided on.
Running a higher cruise then switching the compounds and high dose blast.

I hardly want to ask how old you are and why your "old man" would want you to do this. Any other ancilliries or just straight deca and test?

[Perseverance1]

Zzzz

[slimshady01]

Hilarious and accurate! lol

Ok so Cruising. Well I was in my early(ish) 40's. My off cycle test levels were in the high 600's. Damn good right-esp given my age and cycle history?
I decided for some brilliant reason I was going to cruise. I did it "right". Spent a lot of time in trt section here..learned a ton from guys like kel and vette and gdev. Its an amazing section with a wealth of knowledge. Anyway I settled on 225mgs test and 150 mgs deca/week. That was my cruise. I started off using stane but swapped back to dex after struggling to get e2 correct. Ok Im going along feeling good. Sex drive up etc. Taking all the trt precautions, dhea preg hcg. I was liking it. Then after about 2 months it all went away. It was like cruising became normal. No elevated sex drive, no elevated sense of well being, no alpha felings. Just blah. Just like off cycle only Im injecting 375mgs exogenous hormones every wek. Also gains wise initially I thought wow this is nice holding gains etc. That also stabilizes. All in all my "cruise" experiment has not yielded what I had hoped. I am doing a peptide log and have a couple more months so im going to finish out cruise. I dont want to skew my results or evauation of peps. After that I am coming off and doing an restart protocol. Even in my 40's all in all my take is I'll do trt or "cruise" when I have no other choice. Lesson learned.

did you ever think of dropping the deca and mb lowering your test dose.?

What if you don't recover back into the 600 test levels would you go back on trt?

[slimshady01]

I am 36 with 4 kids and married. I took my first cycle at 35 did a few pcts and then just decided to stay on. Im genetically small framed , my entire family is frail and tiny. Even on gear im not a big guy but stay lean and look very good for what I got.. Diet is near perfect year round, not many can stay as consistent. My test lvls before gear was 400-500 but my total test was 7 on a range of 7-20. My sex drive throughout life has been garbage "most likely propecia" . I could go weeks or longer without relations with my wife , this would drive her nuts but I could care less.

After doing my first cycle I knew what it was like to have a strong sex drive and loved it. My wife was in heaven and no longer insecure thinking something was wrong with her. After PCT drive went back to crap, gains diminished to almost the point of never running a cycle despite near perfect diet and hard lifting. My body seems like it does not just want to hold any sort of mass without a fight.

So after the yoyoying of cycling then PCT I decided to just cruise in between my cycles " my cruise is anywhere from 200-250 which I may actually try to lower and see how I do.

So for me I honestly think test and trt has saved my marriage. For example me and my wife haven't missed more then a couple nights in the last 6 months now. Its almost like we just starting dating despite having 4 kids and more stress then you can imagine financially.

Health wise its prolly not the best for my body as I think I don't cruise as much as I should... That's the problem you got to watch out for.

[jimmyinkedup]

did you ever think of dropping the deca and mb lowering your test dose.?

What if you don't recover back into the 600 test levels would you go back on trt?

At this point I have no intention of trying to tweek things.
I will only go the trt route if I absolutely have too and it will be under strict medical supervision if so.

[Crooktele79]

I am 36 with 4 kids and married. I took my first cycle at 35 did a few pcts and then just decided to stay on. Im genetically small framed , my entire family is frail and tiny. Even on gear im not a big guy but stay lean and look very good for what I got.. Diet is near perfect year round, not many can stay as consistent. My test lvls before gear was 400-500 but my total test was 7 on a range of 7-20. My sex drive throughout life has been garbage "most likely propecia" . I could go weeks or longer without relations with my wife , this would drive her nuts but I could care less.

After doing my first cycle I knew what it was like to have a strong sex drive and loved it. My wife was in heaven and no longer insecure thinking something was wrong with her. After PCT drive went back to crap, gains diminished to almost the point of never running a cycle despite near perfect diet and hard lifting. My body seems like it does not just want to hold any sort of mass without a fight.

So after the yoyoying of cycling then PCT I decided to just cruise in between my cycles " my cruise is anywhere from 200-250 which I may actually try to lower and see how I do.

So for me I honestly think test and trt has saved my marriage. For example me and my wife haven't missed more then a couple nights in the last 6 months now. Its almost like we just starting dating despite having 4 kids and more stress then you can imagine financially.

Health wise its prolly not the best for my body as I think I don't cruise as much as I should... That's the problem you got to watch out for.

That's more along the lines of what I was referring too when talking about cruising. In researching on here I have seen where a lot of people's cruises are like beginner cycles. What are your thoughts on blast and cruise in regards to your health if you only do two blasts per year? What I am looking for is to see if the advantage of not having to do PCT is more beneficial to health and longevity as opposed to the standard on and off method.

This assumes that a person would use a proper TRT dose while cruising while only blasting a couple of times per year. It sounds like a lot of people just blast, blast, blast, oh yeah cruise...

[Hazard]

I listen to my body..... If I feel like I need to come off I do. I my bloodwork says I need to come off - I do. I was on for about 9 months..... Blasting and cruising. I'll say this..... I loved every single day of it.

Now..... By the end of it I felt like I needed a break. Not just from the hormones but also the busy schedule and life style. Things in life were building up and very thin was getting stressful. So I ended up taking approx 7 months off for
Hormones, dieting, and training. I lost about. 15lbs in that time...... Not bad at all IMO for no training either.

I just recently went back on - I'm back in the gym ofcoarse also. Blasting/cruising isn't for everyone ..... I definitely wouldn't recommend it to anyone. It's a lifestyle choice and all options and possible outcomes need to be weighed.

Regarding fertility...... I do not believe doing a blast/cruise will give u a 0% chance of having a kid. Some of the comments I read were a little silly. The important thing to remember is that everyone is different so one persons experience may not be yours. I happened to be on cycle for 7 months and 4-5 weeks into my pct my ex was pregnant. This may not be the next persons experience but I just don't believe with all the stuff out there that one won't be able to have a child.

~Haz~

[Far from massive]

I have read this thead with interest, first thanks to all who contributed, particularly Jimmy.

I am of the feeling that any sense of hugely increased sexualality will likely fade over time (6-18 months). Its just the way of things, the body seeks stasis.

The scary thing is that the feeling of being on top of the world is very hard to control, how many people have extended thier cycles past their planned end date? How many have found themselves like me and been blasting for months and had a really hard time returning to their cruise dosage? I don't think there is any point in denying that AAS can be extremly psychologicaly addictive, to do so is really a disservace to our new members who may know that they have a history of weakness/selfdisipline/addictive personality or whatever you want to call it.

Anyhow if you already suffer from low T and are thinking of going on either TRT or TRT with blasts you would be best to do so under medical supervision, at a clinic like the one on the homepage. At least that way you will have another party to provide feedback...one who has access to your bloodwork...not just your version of the story.

Sorry for the negative spin, but if you do the thing right and maintain yourself on as low a dose of Test as possible and either dont blast or keep blasts short and to a minimum your chances of maintaining a healthy lifestyle will dramatically increase.

PS agree with Hazard 100% on the kids deal. Know a guy who back in the 80s made it all the way to an IFBB N Am Champ he was on constantly for years taking no time off. After stopping and going natural he is now the proud dad of a bunch of little ones.

[fit2bOld]

Good thread lots of honest feedback. Thanks Jimmy and Sampson for being so candid.

[warmouth]

I see the major con is being no children and if you arnt trying to seriously compete its frankly stupid to blast and cruise.

I have made my decision to put my health on the line to become what I have dreamt of as long as I can remember. Ya I'll do blood work all the right things but lets face it , the doses and duration are hard on your health at some level regardless. Just understand and accept that before you commit.

Cruise ATM -
Sust 250
T enth - 200
Deca - 200
Adex - .25mg eod

Upcoming blast
400 test
400 tren
400 eq
Adex

What made you decide to cruise with 2 different test esters at such high doses for a cruise? Just curious, nothing else other than that.