whats done is done! have i done it wrong!!

[bdl528]

1 month off of test 300 w/deca 200 (10wks) .5mg blocker ed. now on pct from reputable vitamin store. sex drive has gone down a bit and worried pct is not enuf. ordered new supplements and ready to go again in aprox 2 wks. have no idea what bridging is but have leftover test and an urge to do low doses til i start again. any input? do i need to wait?

[MuscleInk]

1 month off of test 300 w/deca 200 (10wks) .5mg blocker ed. now on pct from reputable vitamin store. sex drive has gone down a bit and worried pct is not enuf. ordered new supplements and ready to go again in aprox 2 wks. have no idea what bridging is but have leftover test and an urge to do low doses til i start again. any input? do i need to wait?

Sounds like you haven't done a proper PCT. aren't taking proper time off. Low sex drive and you're wanting to start back up? You could make a bad problem worse.

[stpete]

Are your "supps" coming from vitamin store as well?

[AsEpSiS]

Oh dear...

[MickeyKnox]

1 month off of test 300 w/deca 200 (10wks) .5mg blocker ed. now on pct from reputable vitamin store. sex drive has gone down a bit and worried pct is not enuf. ordered new supplements and ready to go again in aprox 2 wks. have no idea what bridging is but have leftover test and an urge to do low doses til i start again. any input? do i need to wait?

It's impossible, imho, to run a proper PCT with vitamins.

So basically, you're coming off cycle without PCT. But since its been a month since your last pin, reintroducing exogenous Test will only compound the problem since your SERM's will arrive in two wks.

There is not really much you can do at this point, except learn a valuable lesson. Hope for the best when your PCT arrives.

[songdog]

Your right wats done is done.You ran a cycle without knowing wat you were doing! You can not run a proper pct with over the counter supps! Go to Ar-r and get some Clomid and Nova ASAP! Ar-r top right hand corner Banner.READ THE PCT section on how to do dose this.Good luck.

[kawika]

Oh dear...

Lolol

[kawika]

1 month off of test 300 w/deca 200 (10wks) .5mg blocker ed. now on pct from reputable vitamin store. sex drive has gone down a bit and worried pct is not enuf. ordered new supplements and ready to go again in aprox 2 wks. have no idea what bridging is but have leftover test and an urge to do low doses til i start again. any input? do i need to wait?

And what's this ".5mg blocker"? Is that from the vitamin shop too?

[Granovich]

Wow deca and testosterone and " blocker" whatever that is !!!!
Bro lsn to Songdog
Go to ar-r , get nolvadex and clomid asap. I think they can deliver it in 2-3 days
Then even have next day delivery
If u dont u will lose gains and end up with limp dik and low testosterone!!!
Who the fvck dO people inject them selves with shit they dont know!!
Its crazy!

[fit2bOld]

Not sounding to good. We're you taking actual ass or some over the counter stuff to go along with the blocker and OTC PCT (over the counter post cycle therapy)

[bdl528]

maybe i should be more specific. the supps are legit, i used the term blocker bcuz i forgot the name. anastrozole. sex drive went from 3-6/day to 1 or twice a day. the vitamin shop is actually a bodybuilding supplement franchise run by a former bodybuilder. i went in for Exteme PCT and he recommended Erase Pro. I admit not knowing enuf to run a proper pct. do u think i still need clomid and/or novadex? or is it too late?

[Blitz777]

maybe i should be more specific. the supps are legit, i used the term blocker bcuz i forgot the name. anastrozole. sex drive went from 3-6/day to 1 or twice a day. the vitamin shop is actually a bodybuilding supplement franchise run by a former bodybuilder. i went in for Exteme PCT and he recommended Erase Pro. I admit not knowing enuf to run a proper pct. do u think i still need clomid and/or novadex? or is it too late?

Just relinquish the notion that you ran anything resembling a proper PCT right now. If you got it from an OTC supp. store, the product name may resemble that of popular PCT drugs but I guarantee you the pharmacology does not. If you purchased it "under the table" maybe it is in fact anastrazole but that alone is not a sufficient protocol.

If I were you I would first run blood work to see where your Total T, Free T, and Estradiol are at. You need a baseline. If you are suppressed I would research and run an HPTA restart. I am an advocate for extended PCTs (i.e. those that run beyond the classic four-weeker you see parroted) and a well-planned HPTA restart will be formulated as such.

[qscgugcsq]

well... 1 or twice a day(sex drive) Is quite good for natty test. Of course with supraphysiological testosterone you Never have enough but with normla test 1-2/day is fine...

But like they said Ar-r as fast as you can and take nolva clomid and start right away.

Good luck

[bdl528]

anastrozole was also legit and took it everyday throughout ten week cycle. so the Erase Pro ( the only sup i got OTC) is crap, and i need clomid and novaldex asap. how much, how long do i take it? think i can get some tonight. I can also set up appntmnt to test test and estrogen levels. thanks for the advice everyone. will check back in later!

[sixfootseven]

This is the stuff you need to know before hand, but obviously can't change that now.

Order it from the site sponsor up top ar-r

Normal pct is Nolva 40/40/40/40
Clomid75/50/50/50

But a vet will probably need to tell you for sure bc of ur whacked up situation.

But order it ASAP think about rapid shipment as well p

[bdl528]

Thank u gentlemen!! Got blood work done friday, should have results today or tomorrow

[bdl528]

Test 314 estradol 16.7 PSA 1.4 never had a baseline to begin. 8 wks since last pin. I feel good only lost 3lbs and havent been hitting the gym super hard. Libido is normal.

[snowblowjoe]

Your test is pretty low

[bdl528]

yup! that # scared the crap out of me! doc said with no baseline cant really say why. sd everyones levels are different. for example, she has seen 25yr olds with 200 and 60 yr olds at over 700. she sd depends on genetics and lifestyle. many firefighters she treats have low test due to stress and lack of sleep!

[snowblowjoe]

I did 2 cycles back to back and used fukn test, Tren, anvar, winny, masteron. Fukd up big time but it's been over 12 weeks since cycle and my test is too high. Most likely due to the fact I'm still running raloxifene to get rid of gyno