Testicular pain help

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02-20-2013, 12:35 PM
< <Samson> >

Testicular pain help

Here it goes, I really did not want to post this but I think going to my MD is not really an option just yet.

For the last 2 weeks or so I have been experiencing a mild pain in my nuts(yes, I know how it sounds). Nothing tremendous, but something similar to a faint numb pain. Sometimes it is worse than others.

I have been on for close to four months. Running a low dose right now of only 175mg of enan a week while cutting. Along with this I am pounding my HCG and it doesn't seem to be doing much. As far as I can tell the HCG is real shit and came from a reputable source.

This just doesn't seem good. My libido(or however you spell it) is just gone. I have no sexual interest at all.

Feeling like this makes me feel pretty lost at times, which really blows. Yet, I still see good positives of course. My strength is great and I am losing fat at a great rate while still maintaining all muscle and possibly even gaining some LBM.

:( < That is all.
02-20-2013, 10:23 PM
< <Samson> >

Anyone experience anything similar?

I'm on test, I should get mad wood but instead I get this. Seems odd to me at least. I was thinking estrogen related but, I was on a Ai all the way until I dropped my dosage.
02-20-2013, 10:38 PM
frank13

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Originally Posted by < >

Here it goes, I really did not want to post this but I think going to my MD is not really an option just yet.

For the last 2 weeks or so I have been experiencing a mild pain in my nuts(yes, I know how it sounds). Nothing tremendous, but something similar to a faint numb pain. Sometimes it is worse than others.

I have been on for close to four months. Running a low dose right now of only 175mg of enan a week while cutting. Along with this I am pounding my HCG and it doesn't seem to be doing much. As far as I can tell the HCG is real shit and came from a reputable source.

This just doesn't seem good. My libido(or however you spell it) is just gone. I have no sexual interest at all.

Feeling like this makes me feel pretty lost at times, which really blows. Yet, I still see good positives of course. My strength is great and I am losing fat at a great rate while still maintaining all muscle and possibly even gaining some LBM.

:( < That is all.

i would think the pain (if diseases is ruled out) may just be from injury hard to say i would go to doc just make shore its not serious try getting back on the AI to see if that helps with libido maybe estrogen related worth trying or maybe your just stressed out about the nuts and that's messing with your head i mean who wants to have sex when your nuts hurt
02-20-2013, 10:42 PM
warmouth

Have you had BW done recently samson? Could be that that small dose of test could still be aromatizing. What is your dosing protocol for your hcg? Are you taking any ancillaries? What supplements are you taking?
02-20-2013, 10:53 PM
< <Samson> >

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Originally Posted by warmouth

Have you had BW done recently samson? Could be that that small dose of test could still be aromatizing. What is your dosing protocol for your hcg? Are you taking any ancillaries? What supplements are you taking?

Just my test levels about 2 months ago, full blood panel 6 months ago.

Currently no Ai

HCG is 250iu every 4th day

As for supplements, my usual multi, fish oil, vitamin c, 1000iu of b12 weekly with my test and heavy pre-workout beverage.

The newest things to me are the HCG & b12.

But, this is a new occurrence. I only started to notice all of the symptoms about 2-3 weeks ago.

For the pain, it's nothing crazy by any means. Just dull and somewhat annoying at some times. With the HCG added my nut size seems to have come back just a tad bit, but not to usual off cycle size by any means.

The size doesn't really matter since I know that this is what will happen when we are shut down. But, the pain is a bit of crappy sign.

And the pain is not from any form of injury.
02-20-2013, 10:57 PM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by < >

Just my test levels about 2 months ago, full blood panel 6 months ago.

Currently no Ai

HCG is 250iu every 4th day

As for supplements, my usual multi, fish oil, vitamin c, 1000iu of b12 weekly with my test and heavy pre-workout beverage.

The newest things to me are the HCG & b12.

But, this is a new occurrence. I only started to notice all of the symptoms about 2-3 weeks ago.

For the pain, it's nothing crazy by any means. Just dull and somewhat annoying at some times. With the HCG added my nut size seems to have come back just a tad bit, but not to usual off cycle size by any means.

The size doesn't really matter since I know that this is what will happen when we are shut down. But, the pain is a bit of crappy sign.

And the pain is not from any form of injury.

I sure hope Bonaparte caches this while he is on. It might be the testies trying normalize from the hcg since its new to you and youve been cruising for so long. I might have missed something. I hooe Bona sees it. The supps shouldn't have any effect. If you were taking daa or something it might have similar effects, but you arent. Lets keep this bumped until you get an answer. Ill guarantee you can get a diagnosis here with these guys.

Edit* still thinking this might be hcg related due to your extended shutdown. If so, its probably just doing its job and all will be well. Don't take my word for this though, as there needs to be a "bona-pro" or austinite on this one. Kel coukd help but it seems he not on right now.

Lastly, you might need to go ahead with the AI. I'm only on 125mgs weekly, but just for peace of mind I'm taking adex 2x a week.
02-20-2013, 11:01 PM
warmouth

Last post edited. Needed to add a side note.
02-20-2013, 11:01 PM
< <Samson> >

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Originally Posted by warmouth

It might be the testies trying normalize from the hcg since its new to you and youve been cruising for so long.

This what I figured also. But, the no libido(not low, I really mean no) is BS too. Right when I started the HCG it spiked pretty well, then just dropped off and fast. It's just like I am in week 3 of PCT.
02-20-2013, 11:21 PM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by < >

This what I figured also. But, the no libido(not low, I really mean no) is BS too. Right when I started the HCG it spiked pretty well, then just dropped off and fast. It's just like I am in week 3 of PCT.

That part is what I personally am attibuting too estro. Hgc shouldnt wreck your libido, but high e2 will. Id take the AI man. I know you don't want too, and neither do I, but better safe than sorry. My first cycle I didn't use an AI and used test p @350mgs a week. I was expecting sex would be multiple times a day. Nothing. Not even the slightest desire to be with my wife sexually. Started the basic AI protocol, like rabbits a week later. I think its that. And mix it up. Don't do the everday or everyother day. Go m/w/f. See what works for you. I'm doing monday and thursday on pin days, and I get on my own nerves with my horniness, lol.
02-20-2013, 11:36 PM
Hitman Heimler

One possibility I would like to point out is that your Vas Deferens (the cords from your balls) could have become entangled. This could occurs if you wear loose underwear, such as boxers, while you run or do anything where you are bouncing around.

Now, I don't think that is what the case is, but if you get those things looked at I would mention it.
02-20-2013, 11:38 PM
< <Samson> >

Sure wish blood work was free and easily accessible.

So Ai huh? Got plenty of it. . . .

I'll give it a go, don't really have many choices.

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Originally Posted by Hitman Heimler

One possibility I would like to point out is that your Vas Deferens (the cords from your balls) could have become entangled.

Is this possible? Out of all the shit I have heard, haven't heard this yet.
02-21-2013, 12:31 AM
AD

most of the aches and pains in the ballz are not dangerous, unless the pain is sudden and severe, or if the pain comes from a lump on the ball itself. but it seems like your pain does not belong to the scary category. you probably still need to see a doc to be sure especially if the pain persist.. but probably no need to run to the ER. take some pain-killer and see what happens.
02-21-2013, 01:58 AM
Hitman Heimler

No need to panic or anything. If you see your doc, I was only suggesting you ask them about it. They will be able to feel if it tangled or not.

I'm sure this is not the case, but it happens in sports sometimes.
02-21-2013, 03:29 AM
XxAndreaxX

you have been on for 4 months?? its a big amount of time, I'd do a BW, because right now it could be everything. prolactine, e2, who knows. I recently had some test pain, it began in week 4, and now with hcg, its under control, although its not completely gone. and I have to wear wide shorts and baggys.
02-21-2013, 06:08 AM
kronik420

i remember reading somewhere that people that are on AAS for long periods (blast and cruise, or TRT) should take a couple weeks break from HCG every few months or so....

+ HCG aromatizes, so an AI is needed with it's use... i think...
02-21-2013, 09:42 AM
Turkish Juicer

HCG doesn't aromatize at 250iu.

OP's testicular pain maybe due to something completely different, such as testicular infection. There is no way of knowing this since it would require us to be both specialist MDs and clairvoyants to come up with an online diagnosis.

See a specialist for this...
02-21-2013, 10:08 AM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

HCG doesn't aromatize at 250iu.

OP's testicular pain maybe due to something completely different, such as testicular infection. There is no way of knowing this since it would require us to be both specialist MDs and clairvoyants to come up with an online diagnosis.

See a specialist for this...

What is your opinion about him being on for a long time without using hcg and just starting it now? Do you think it might be his testies adjusting to the hcg? I'm really curious on this one. I'm sure he has atrophied in the last few months and I thought the hcg could be trying to normalize and this could bring on some discomfort.
02-21-2013, 11:05 AM
< <Samson> >

I started the HCG after being on for about a month. So, I been on HCG for close to 4 months.

And the pain is not severe, but slightly noticeable at times.

I'll keep a close eye on myself as I have been doing. Running juice for a extended period of time is whole new thing for me. But, I really didn't think much of since I am just using a very low TRT type dose.

What is odd though somewhat, is the bawls themselves came back to 75%+ of normal size. Ok, cool - - - Yet, they are as close tot he body as I when I was not using the HCG

Damn self medication. . . . Would be so nice to just go to a true MD and say prescribe me juice, I want to get big. < Again asking for too much.
02-21-2013, 02:58 PM
MickeyKnox

Agree with seeing a doctor, first and foremost.

But i have a question. You indicated your testicular pain began recently. Does the timing of your new hCG coincide with the pain? And previously, was there any pain? Was your hCG different at that time?

Any correlation whatsoever with hCG? You should rule that out completely first, if possible.
02-21-2013, 03:34 PM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Agree with seeing a doctor, first and foremost.

But i have a question. You indicated your testicular pain began recently. Does the timing of your new hCG coincide with the pain? And previously, was there any pain? Was your hCG different at that time?

Any correlation whatsoever with hCG? You should rule that out completely first, if possible.

This exaclty. He mentiona it started after beginning hcg after cruising for months without using it. This is what I'm thinking the discomfort is from too.
02-21-2013, 09:15 PM
AD

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Originally Posted by < >

Damn self medication. . . . Would be so nice to just go to a true MD and say prescribe me juice, I want to get big. < Again asking for too much.

pm Ink :)
02-21-2013, 11:57 PM
555mjolnir

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02-22-2013, 12:51 AM
< <Samson> >

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Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Any correlation whatsoever with hCG?

It does correlate with the HCG for sure. I was on 800mg a week for 8 weeks then dropped my dose, right around the time I dropped my dose I started the HCG. About 2-4 weeks later the pain slowly came on.

I have no problems seeing a MD really. But, they will know I am on juice with these nuts. There is no denying it, although I still wouldn't admit I was on juice. Just say I started pumping HCG.

Just deciding on how long I should wait

Drop the HCG now?
02-22-2013, 01:45 AM
joebailey1271

I get that dull ache when i do curls for some reason, i also got it when i started hcg for the first week or so. 250 every 4 days does not seem like much, maybe its not enough to fully start your test to fucntion right.
02-22-2013, 04:10 AM
Stosh_112

Hey man, u ran 800mg per wk and i bet the drive was goin full boar. Then u dropped down to 175mg per wk. Ofcourse ur gonna see a drop in libido, as for the pain. I thinks its a combo of hcg and ur htpa trying to bounce back. Also, a possible E2 rebound? What type of Ai where u using?
02-22-2013, 06:00 AM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by < >

It does correlate with the HCG for sure. I was on 800mg a week for 8 weeks then dropped my dose, right around the time I dropped my dose I started the HCG. About 2-4 weeks later the pain slowly came on.

I have no problems seeing a MD really. But, they will know I am on juice with these nuts. There is no denying it, although I still wouldn't admit I was on juice. Just say I started pumping HCG.

Just deciding on how long I should wait

Drop the HCG now?

No, don't drop it. It seems to be doing its job. It will normalize and you should be fine. That is, if it is the hcg. You need to be using it.
02-22-2013, 08:50 AM
< <Samson> >

I was on stane when I was using an Ai.

As far as the HCG, you think to stay on?

TRT guys aren't on it, are they?
02-22-2013, 09:37 AM
warmouth

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Originally Posted by < >

I was on stane when I was using an Ai.

As far as the HCG, you think to stay on?

TRT guys aren't on it, are they?

Yes! Trt guys should indeed be on it. Stay on if you're going to continue to cruise.
02-22-2013, 07:09 PM
< <Samson> >

I seen somewhere that it's bad for prolonged use.
02-22-2013, 07:20 PM
MickeyKnox

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Originally Posted by < >

I was on stane when I was using an Ai.

As far as the HCG, you think to stay on?

TRT guys aren't on it, are they?

Yup we sure are. In fact, i believe G divine's protocol is 250iu 3 times a wk!