Help !

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 06:26 AM

I'm 43 5'5" 165lb been on for a long time, I was on 1cc of cyp for a while and never had a problem until I went for my gear and cyp was all out. My only choice was T 400 but there was deca in it and in the past I did not do well with deca. But I did not want to go off so I took it did one cc of the 400 and I had some of my cyp left and I put 1/2 cc cyp all in one and went for it I did this for about eight weeks also I had also just started taking dim into my second bottle 4 per day. All was great. And then one day I started to loose my libido I I went to the dr and he told me that my test. Was 1500 and my free test was 55 and my liver count was at 68. She told me to stop taking any supplements that I was taking I've stopped for about a month and still nothing so I went to my cardio dr because he had prescribed me Lipitor 40 mg and that's prob what made the liver go up so hi so hi changed it it 5 mg Crestor he told me that 68 is not hi don't worry your doing great and come back in three months for blood test on liver. My question is this from what I've read can it be my test went up too hi and that can cause my sex drive to disappear. I don't care what it please tell me what I need to do to get it back ..

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 06:36 AM

Did u have ur e2 checked when u got ur test levels checked?

-TroN-

**songdog** · 02-24-2013, 06:59 AM

Deca is a 19Nor and not something to play around with bro.You just cant start taking other drugs beacuse your out of yours.Deca will kill your libdo.You are going to need bloodwork done to find out the problem.Good luck bro.

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:03 AM

No I don't see it on my blood test.

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:04 AM

I did have blood work done what should I be looking for ?

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:07 AM

R u using an ai?

With deca (19nor) won't convert to estrogen but they will still cause progesterone and prolactin issues. Which can lead to limp d1ck. Most of the time the progesterone and prolactin issues can be controlled by controlling estrogen with an ai. But if it gets outta hand u have to use caber or prami.

-TroN-

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

I did have blood work done what should I be looking for ?

What panels did u have tested?

-TroN-

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:17 AM

They did chemistry,lipids,hematology,urinalysis,thyroid,and my test.and no not on any ai.

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

They did chemistry,lipids,hematology,urinalysis,thyroid,and my test.and no not on any ai.

I'm willing to bet that if u have ur estradiol tested its high. Which on its own can lead to ed and low labido. What was ur cyp dosed at? 250? If so, you may have had just slightly elevated e2. Then u introduced another 275mg test plus a 19nor to ur system. Which could have elevate e2 or prolactin. You really need to go get full bloodwork done. Are you on pct right now?

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:25 AM

There is not Deca in it! Its Testosterone Deconate ie: Deca ester!

You failed to control E2 and therfore lost your ability to maintain an erection...itf you have stopped everything, it will most likely come back in time as the body self regulates!

In the mean time...stop fukn with steroids till you learn more...you obviously are not educating yourself about these powerful hormones!

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:29 AM

I was going to start some hcg that's what I've been told and read in here. 250iu twice a week do you suggest that or should I do nothing at all ?

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:32 AM

By the way...1500 is not "too high"!

What is DIM?

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

By the way...1500 is not "too high"!

What is DIM?

Lol here in about 2 weeks when I get bw, I'm hoping for 5000+ lol

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Lol here in about 2 weeks when I get bw, I'm hoping for 5000+ lol

-TroN-

That might be your estrogen level...your test is prob...20 or so. Vagina!

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:38 AM

Lol then 1500 isn't that bad then these Dr's scare the hell out of you. Dim is becoming really popular it's for estrogen metabolism everybody in my gym is talking about it they can't get enough.

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:39 AM

What do you thing about caber

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

Lol then 1500 isn't that bad then these Dr's scare the hell out of you. Dim is becoming really popular it's for estrogen metabolism everybody in my gym is talking about it they can't get enough.

1500 is high for someone NOT on aas. I think the normal high threshold is around 1100. But comparatively, 1500 is on the lower side when using aas.

How does DIM work?

-TroN-

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

That might be your estrogen level...your test is prob...20 or so. Vagina!

Lmfao! Ur just gettin scared cuz I'm catching up to u big guy :P

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

What do you thing about caber

WHY? Dude..is your problem actually libido or being able to maintain an erection? 2 different things!

How long have you been off and are you taking ANYTHING???

The Doc scares the hell out of you becuse they know thats a higher than normal test range but believe me...that isnt high in the AAS world!

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Lmfao! Ur just gettin scared cuz I'm catching up to u big guy :P

-TroN-

Big jump from 205 (or whatever your at) to 240! Even my cut weight goal is 225!

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:44 AM

Dim is for pct it will regulate estrogen in men and women at least that's what they claim.

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

What do you thing about caber

I think u need to do a proper pct with nolva and clomid. Quit taking D1CK or DIM or whatever it is. And then quit taking things u know nothing about. Wanna get big? Eat, eat, eat. Train. Eat. Rinse repeat.

When was ur last injection?

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

Dim is for pct it will regulate estrogen in men and women at least that's what they claim.

It's a phony herbal...stop taking that shyt! It is not an effective AI!

Answer my questions please!

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:48 AM

I stopped everything for now but I do want to go back to 1cc of cyp per week but not to sure what i should do I've take 1 cc of cyp for years and never had any prob at all

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Big jump from 205 (or whatever your at) to 240! Even my cut weight goal is 225!

Right now? Weighed in at 220, some water weight. But I was at 205 at 10-12%. Ur at 240 at 20%. U only got 10-12 lbs lbm on me! I'll b there in no time!

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:50 AM

Please answer these questions!

1) when was your last injection of anything?

2) do you have sex drive but problems maintaining an erection

3) are you taking ANYTHING currently

4) Did you run a PCT

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Big jump from 205 (or whatever your at) to 240! Even my cut weight goal is 225!

When was the last time u were actually 225?! We all know lunk likes food! And DQ is opening up soon! All downhill from there!

-TroN-

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:52 AM

Libido down to shit erection good once i get there . Last shot was about 4 weeks ago.

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

I stopped everything for now but I do want to go back to 1cc of cyp per week but not to sure what i should do I've take 1 cc of cyp for years and never had any prob at all

Years?!

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

Libido down to shit erection good once i get there . Last shot was about 4 weeks ago.

Do you have a PCT available???

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

When was the last time u were actually 225?! We all know lunk likes good! And DQ is opening up soon! All downhill from there!

-TroN-

LOL...1997 lol! I had gotten up to 280+ about 3 years ago! I was 232 before Thanksgiving...

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

LOL...1997 lol! I had gotten up to 280+ about 3 years ago! I was 232 before Thanksgiving...

Lmao!!! 1997! I was 13!!!!!

-TroN-

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Lmao!!! 1997! I was 13!!!!!

-TroN-

Born in 85...great year for hair band music. Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, Quit Riot and Ratt all released new albums! Oh the days...lol

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 07:59 AM

Yes I do have pct available . Yes years I've been on and off for years never had any of these problems.

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 08:01 AM

Lol in 85 I was in spring break in Florida

**Lunk1** · 02-24-2013, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

Yes I do have pct available . Yes years I've been on and off for years never had any of these problems.

You need to run a full PCT...to help get you going again! Drop any other crap you might be consuming! Did you notice the part about you NOT using Deca ...it Test Deconate...Long estered test!

Please try to become more educated for your own health and safety

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 08:05 AM

Yea I did but should I run hcg now?

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Thing

Yea I did but should I run hcg now?

You'd have to blast it I'd think. Like 2500 eod or something like that. Dont quote me on that protocol tho.

-TroN-

**Thing** · 02-24-2013, 08:08 AM

Yea I've heard that before you may be right

**Tron3219** · 02-24-2013, 08:13 AM

U should really give up steroid . Ur 43, been on for "years" and only 165 lbs.

The only steroids you need is when ur hpta doesn't recover and u go to an endo and they put u on trt

-TroN-