First cycle question

[woodrowdu]

Hey all, I have a herniated disc and have to wait a bit before my first pin. So I have time to get better prepared. I'm confused about during cycle Nolva.
I'm 44 - body fat is 18- 5'9 -200 lb
Test E 500mg week for 12 weeks
Off for 8weeks then...
Test E 12 weeks -dbol 25 mg kicker for first 40 days
What do I need on hand to take during the cycle incase of gyno? And how do I take it?
Also, is Nolva alone enough for PCT?
Thanks

[MuscleInk]

Hey all, I have a herniated disc and have to wait a bit before my first pin. So I have time to get better prepared. I'm confused about during cycle Nolva.
I'm 44 - body fat is 18- 5'9 -200 lb
Test E 500mg week for 12 weeks
Off for 8weeks then...
Test E 12 weeks -dbol 25 mg kicker for first 40 days
What do I need on hand to take during the cycle incase of gyno? And how do I take it?
Also, is Nolva alone enough for PCT?
Thanks

Woodrow,

It looks like TWO cycles here, not one and you aren't allowing enough time off between.

You need a proper AI not a SERM during cycle and the reasons are far more important than gyno. Inclusion of HCG is strongly advised.

Please read this thread:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.UTe0gN69Kc0

[woodrowdu]

Thanks for the quick response. I read that if you do another cycle within 12 weeks it isn't necessary to do pct since you will be back on in a short amount of time. This is why I'm posting questions. How long should I wait till second cycle?

[songdog]

This is your 1st cycle 500mg test a week for 10 to 12 weeks.Run a ai like Adex @.25eod to start.Pct nova and clomid for pct run hcg @ 250ius 2x a week during cycle.This is how beginners start not by blasting and cruising.Also have your diet checked beacuse your bf is on the high side.

[Provita]

Imo, always do PCT! Except if you are on TRT.

General rule of thumb. Time on plus PCT = time off.

Note, it is good to do blood work to make sure everything is in check.

[songdog]

Bloodwork is a must!

[woodrowdu]

I was going by info on steroids.com. They had pct as Nolva or clomid but pick one. No need for both. I can see now the need for an AI while on. But should I take it the entire cycle or just if I see sides? And yes, I will get my bf down some more first. And I just had a physical. Other than the herniated disc, I'm g2g

[MuscleInk]

This is your 1st cycle 500mg test a week for 10 to 12 weeks.Run a ai like Adex @.25eod to start.Pct nova and clomid for pct run hcg @ 250ius 2x a week during cycle.This is how beginners start not by blasting and cruising.Also have your diet checked beacuse your bf is on the high side.

Good advice from Songdog.

Gentlemen who need TRT to maintain normal physiological levels of testosterone will avoid PCT and instead, alternate between TRT and a properly run cycle (called cruising and blasting). If you're not a TRT candidate, a proper cycle inclusive of PCT is necessary to help restore normal testicular and HTPA function. The MINIMUM recommended time off between anabolic cycles is at least time on + PCT. So if you run a 12 week cycle with 4 wk PCT, time off between subsequent cycles is at least 16 wks.

Remember to have a proper AI integrated into your cycle and as Songdog mentioned, if your nutrition plan is off, what you gain on cycle and keep between cycles will be compromised.

[MickeyKnox]

This is your 1st cycle 500mg test a week for 10 to 12 weeks.Run a ai like Adex @.25eod to start.Pct nova and clomid for pct run hcg @ 250ius 2x a week during cycle.This is how beginners start not by blasting and cruising.Also have your diet checked beacuse your bf is on the high side.

Good advice from Songdog.

Gentlemen who need TRT to maintain normal physiological levels of testosterone will avoid PCT and instead, alternate between TRT and a properly run cycle (called cruising and blasting). If you're not a TRT candidate, a proper cycle inclusive of PCT is necessary to help restore normal testicular and HTPA function. The MINIMUM recommended time off between anabolic cycles is at least time on + PCT. So if you run a 12 week cycle with 4 wk PCT, time off between subsequent cycles is at least 16 wks.

Remember to have a proper AI integrated into your cycle and as Songdog mentioned, if your nutrition plan is off, what you gain on cycle and keep between cycles will be compromised.

Solid advice by both of these Vets. ^^

I was going by info on steroids.com. They had pct as Nolva or clomid but pick one. No need for both. I can see now the need for an AI while on. But should I take it the entire cycle or just if I see sides? And yes, I will get my bf down some more first. And I just had a physical. Other than the herniated disc, I'm g2g

Welcome to the Forums Woodrow,

Please bear in mind that some of the literature on this site is a bit outdated, but steps are being taken to update some of the information.

PCT include both Clomid and Nolva. Chose one cycle and run it. But make sure your diet is developed to suit your intended goals.

*And ensure that you have ALL your SERM's, AI's, hCG, and any other accoutrements to you cycle on hand. Do NOT begin a cycle until ALL of this is in your possession.


**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[woodrowdu]

Ok, thanks. Should I run the HCG for any length of time after the last pin? And do I wait a couple weeks before Nolva because of the long ester test?

[Provita]

Ok, thanks. Should I run the HCG for any length of time after the last pin? And do I wait a couple weeks before Nolva because of the long ester test?

HCG 250iu twice/week from day 1- 4 days before PCT Starts. This is to ensure all HCH is out of your system when PCT starts.