6'4 225lbs 15%BF - Anavar help drop 5%?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 05:27 PM

I am currently 6'4 225lbs. 15%bf. I am looking to harden and drop some BF%.

During the cycle I will be running 2 a days. I will do HIT and HIIT in the morning for 45min to an hour (fasted).

Afternoons I lift for an hour. I incorporate 2 rest days, Wednesday and Sundays.

MAYBE one cheat meal a month, strict diet, low calories, carbs only once a day for lunch which is rice.

I am more looking to shred and harden and not worried about muscle growth as much but was thinking of using the Anavar to maintain the muscle and maybe add 5-10lbs.

I used anavar YEARS ago but I was going to run 50mg ED for 8 weeks. I think in 2 months with supplementing the anavar its attainable.

Just wanted to hear some thoughts...............thanks guys

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 07:58 PM

No one?

**MuscleInk** · 03-07-2013, 08:00 PM

Running var by itself for 8 wks? No test?

**austinite** · 03-07-2013, 08:03 PM

Not a very realistic goal, Mack. 15 to 10% in 8 weeks would be quite amazing. 50mg of var at your size won't do much at all. Any test?

**haterade** · 03-07-2013, 08:07 PM

with little carbs and that much cardio u should be ripped.. yet, i would say only one meal with carbs is a little extreme .. u should go over to the diet section and get a critique from the mods over there..

**cj111** · 03-07-2013, 08:39 PM

One carb meal of rice a day? What purpose does this serve exactly, can you explain what thats all about ?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 10:30 PM

I just keep Carbs to a minimum to help burn more fat, I guess the best way to describe it, it's almost a KETO diet but the one serving of rice helps me keep my sanity.

I prefer not to run test since the anavar doesn't shut me down too bad personally, but I have thought about. I just want no possibility of any sort of bloat. I've spoken with my friend who is on a Tren and Test cycle......he's TRT though too and he obviously recommends it.

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK

I just keep Carbs to a minimum to help burn more fat, I guess the best way to describe it, it's almost a KETO diet but the one serving of rice helps me keep my sanity.

I prefer not to run test since the anavar doesn't shut me down too bad personally, but I have thought about. I just want no possibility of any sort of bloat. I've spoken with my friend who is on a Tren and Test cycle......he's TRT though too and he obviously recommends it.

How is that ? Did you get bw ?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 10:45 PM

The other thing is I have a "semi" chemical imbalance that I take medication for to stop any anxiety/depression and I know the anavar makes me feel good and its not rough for me during PCT. So I am 100pct all natural, meaning no drink no smoking no coffee, no nothing. Granted I will binge eat a few weeks here or there when I fall off the horse but, when I tried to run and ECA stack a few years ago, that did NOT sit well with me. So overall I am very touchy to new and different compounds. I know an ECA stack and Test dont compare but you can see my concern.

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by GymHero

How is that ? Did you get bw ?

What? Did I get what?

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK

What? Did I get what?

Blood work. Anavar completely shuts you down just not as fast as something like npp or tren for example.. I don't see why you wouldn't just run a basic test cycle with var plus having your diet/training on point will get you results but not 5% in 8 weeks..

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK

The other thing is I have a "semi" chemical imbalance that I take medication for to stop any anxiety/depression and I know the anavar makes me feel good and its not rough for me during PCT. So I am 100pct all natural, meaning no drink no smoking no coffee, no nothing. Granted I will binge eat a few weeks here or there when I fall off the horse but, when I tried to run and ECA stack a few years ago, that did NOT sit well with me. So overall I am very touchy to new and different compounds. I know an ECA stack and Test dont compare but you can see my concern.

Imagine the overall well being feeling you get from var.. Times that by 10 on just test lol. Simple cycle like 400mg Test Cyp PW would suite you quite well

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 10:57 PM

It would actually make your depression/anxiety better, does for me atleast.

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by GymHero

Blood work. Anavar completely shuts you down just not as fast as something like npp or tren for example.. I don't see why you wouldn't just run a basic test cycle with var plus having your diet/training on point will get you results but not 5% in 8 weeks..

For me at the low dosages of Var that I took ie 50mgs, it did not shut me down completely. I still had sex like a champ and was rock solid. I did have post blood work and my levels weren't bad after PCT, except my one liver enzyme was a little high. Fyi, you can read alot on this forum, but not everyone reacts the same to every compound.

I am def pondering the Test more then usual.

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK

For me at the low dosages of Var that I took ie 50mgs, it did not shut me down completely. I still had sex like a champ and was rock solid. I did have post blood work and my levels weren't bad after PCT, except my one liver enzyme was a little high. Fyi, you can read alot on this forum, but not everyone reacts the same to every compound.

I have read multiple studies that show how suppressive var is. If you ran it at 50mg for x amount of weeks you were shut down.. Just because you can still have sex doesn't mean you weren't " shut down "

To the bold above. I agree 100% that's why when people come on here for advice on how much to run we can only give them our best advice from personal experience. This is a lifestyle and a huge learning experience. You learn what you can/can't take and how much you can/can't take to avoid sides etc.

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by GymHero

I have read multiple studies that show how suppressive var is. If you ran it at 50mg for x amount of weeks you were shut down.. Just because you can still have sex doesn't mean you weren't " shut down "

I agree but it didnt inhibit me and I was coming off the Var at that point and the halflife is short so its out of my system and recooping in no time.

Can I run a super low dosage of Test, like 200mg? Also can I run it for only 4 weeks? Like the last 4 weeks of my anavar cycle.

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK;6429***

I agree but it didnt inhibit me and I was coming off the Var at that point and the halflife is short so its out of my system and recooping in no time.

Can I run a super low dosage of Test, like 200mg? Also can I run it for only 4 weeks? Like the last 4 weeks of my anavar cycle.

You can but i would suggest 400mg and longer than 4 weeks. Its not worth it to run such short cycles. You are stopping right when the fun is about to begin!! Why not run Prop for 8 weeks and run var along side for the first 6 weeks ? If pinning is an issue look more into option 2 but these are both simple cycles that can yield amazing results with a solid diet and training regimen.

Wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Wk 1-6 Var 50-100mg ED ( Find your sweet spot )

Wk 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg PW
Wk 1-6 Var ( same as above )

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 11:08 PM

I'm unsure about your knowledge behind AAS? Do you understand the difference between longer and shorter esters ?

**MACKATTACK** · 03-07-2013, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by GymHero

I'm unsure about your knowledge behind AAS? Do you understand the difference between longer and shorter esters ?

Yes. One you have to shoot ED or EOD and one you can shoot once a week. I know Prop will sometimes hurt more also. I just dont know how I will react to the PIN because I have never done so.

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by MACKATTACK

Yes. One you have to shoot ED or EOD and one you can shoot once a week. I know Prop will sometimes hurt more also. I just dont know how I will react to the PIN because I have never done so.

Virgin muscles so you will hurt but some can't take it. I ran Prop at 75mg ED for my first cycle. Pip wasn't bad but i have a great source and everything is always smooth. Go with a longer ester and pin x2 a week if that is a concern and just rotate on your glutes

**redz** · 03-07-2013, 11:23 PM

es. One you have to shoot ED or EOD and one you can shoot once a week.

Close, long esters are still supposed to be shot twice per week for stable blood levels.

**binsser** · 03-09-2013, 12:59 PM

Im doing anavar at the monent mate and ripping it up with test prop and the results are great ...

Doing ..

600 mg of test prop

80mg of anavar 40 mg twice daily

Great cycle except getting abit veiny which i dont like too much but it is what it is .

Think of it like this if var does supress your test even alittle then ull want test anyway for great results!
Test is really a good idea too bud hope this helps