Where's the REAL answer?

**martin_d133** · 03-07-2013, 11:09 PM

Hi everyone, Martin here..

I signed up here because I have a few questions I'd like to address.

I'm 18 years old and have been lifting for the past 4 years and have recently been contemplating AAS.

Someone who is very close to me suggested running Anavar at 20 MG on days we work out for 6 weeks.

This is like 1/10th of what most dudes are taking (when you look at it on a day-day basis).

I obviously feel like that wouldn't mess with HPTA due to the small amount and the relatively low halflife
of Anavar in itself.

I've never heard of a cycle like this at all and am curious as to what you guys think?

I've read people who say it's useless... it's fine... it'll shut you down... it won't... but there's really no solid, concrete answers.

Is taking this little of Anavar enough to MINIMALLY help while not shutting down or having a big effect on suppressing testosterone ?

**red_hulk** · 03-07-2013, 11:28 PM

You're too young. The guy giving you advice has no clue what he's talking about either. Wait a few years dude.

**martin_d133** · 03-07-2013, 11:32 PM

Yeah the problem is with the 'too young' stuff is that I don't read anything SOLID about it... seriously frustrating.

The guy who has given me this advice is my trainer, has been for years, I've seen him help other people cycle with no issues, he competes... that's why I don't understand when it comes down to his advice vs. the internet.

The advice he gives is stuff he's clearly DOING and is obviously working... but everything online says otherwise.

I'm definitely listening to the advice I get on here it's just hard when it all contradicts.

Originally Posted by red_hulk

You're too young. The guy giving you advice has no clue what he's talking about either. Wait a few years dude.

**redz** · 03-07-2013, 11:33 PM

It is still supressive and at that dose the loss of test you are producing from the shut down would completely negate any potential gains not to mention having messed up hormone levels after and possible even permanently.

**redz** · 03-07-2013, 11:35 PM

Also if you would like to see a couple examples....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UTl5OVf3Oj1
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UTl5alf3Oj1

**GymHero** · 03-07-2013, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by redz

It is still supressive and at that dose the loss of test you are producing from the shut down would completely negate any potential gains not to mention having messed up hormone levels after and possible even permanently.

Great response. Seeing too many var only cycles lately. Replacing test with var, if only they knew what was going on inside...

**Soar** · 03-07-2013, 11:52 PM

Unless you're a woman 20mg daily is going to be a waste anyway, not worth the risks if you ask me. Males are normally around 100mg daily. Sounds like you have a brain on those shoulders, best wait it out and take advantage of your natural test while you can.

**sawyer86** · 03-08-2013, 12:02 AM

listen to these guys they know ther stuff! wish i had the sense to come on here a few year back and talk to people before starting aas!

**martin_d133** · 03-08-2013, 12:38 AM

Hey guys, thank you for the answer - honestly it's nice having a community to talk to about this stuff.

Most people say "You're 18, get the hell out of here!" and don't give any advice.

I can't explain how much I appreciate you guys actually sending real life examples.

Redz, I checked out every thread inside of the links... now I am NOT trying to be a smartass here just trying to educate myself.

I noticed most guys were taking wildly suppressive (when compared to 20MG ED of Anavar ) stuff along with using Test (obviously to compensate).

Now the way I had it explained to me was that due to Var's low half-life and the way we would be taking it mildly is that it wouldn't stay in the system long enough to cause any serious suppression.

And any suppression that was caused SHOULD come back after the mild 6 week cycle.

I was also told this wouldn't be a powerful cycle at all (as there's clearly not a lot going on) but in addition to the already solid diet and lifting regimen it would add SOME additional help - but not lots.

Any word on that? Once again - I am 100% listening just trying to clarify what I have been told.

**ma_fighter** · 03-08-2013, 01:18 AM

Not worth the risks involved, not even close.
20mgs of Var every now and then will do f*ck all for building mass, but can potentially permanently damage you HPTA.

So basically you will get NO noticeable benefits at all, but run the risk of doing lifelong damage to your own endocrine system.
Just forget about any kind of AAS or PH's till you're 25-26 years old, if you want to be as safe as you can be.