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    Question on current steroid and HGH routine, recommended stack and itchy bumps

    Hi, New to the forum and looking for a little advice.

    I am a 53 year old male, weight 190, body fat 11.9% (according to FitBit scale). I am in decent shape (not ripped) for my age, but want to take it to the next level.

    I have low testosterone levels and low IGF-1. Both levels were under 200.

    Doctor started me on 2.5 of the hash lines on a 3ml syringe of testosterone cypionate indictable every 3 days. (Vial is 2,000mg/10ml). Levels were still low after 3 months so bumped me to 3.5 hash lines every 3 days (no new results yet at this level).

    A friend got me some HGH in 10 iu bottles which I inject 1 ml sterile water into the bottle. I was taking 20 iu's in an insulin syringe 5 days straight with 2 days off and have done that for about 7 weeks. So one bottle would last for the 5 days. Have not noticed much of a difference except strength has gone up. Another friend said I should do 30 iu's every day with no breaks. So any comments on that appreciated.

    Same friend just got me Masterone 150 (vial is 150mg/ml) and 100 10mg Anavar tablets. One friend recommended doing .5 ml Masterone every three days in the same syringe as my testosterone. The otherf riend recommended 1.5 ML Masterone per week.

    They both recommended taking 2 of the 10 mg Anavar twice a day.

    I did my first Masterone/Testosterone shot 3 days ago and started the Anavar at the same time.

    Three questions:

    1. Is this stack of testosterone, Masterone, HGH and Anavar a good (safe) stack?

    2. Does anyone have a different opinion on how much to take and how often?

    3. A couple days ago I broke out in a very small bumps that itch dead center of my chest and has grown to about a 3-4 inch area. Could this combination cause this? It somewhat looks like acne without the puss, and it itches.

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by results1st; 03-10-2013 at 02:53 PM.

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    Wow!!! I dont know were to start.

    First...........how many Milagrams of cyp are you injecting every 3 days. ML tells us nothing

    I would get my test levels straighted out before even thinking about any other compounds

    Is you bloodwork even stable yet....

    My advice to you sir is to STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything other than what your doctor is giving you.

    You have no clue on steriod use..........

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    Sorry Papa Smurf. I am new to this and did state things incorrectly. I am reading a lot here and learning all the conversions. My doctor just handed me a 3ml syringe and said to draw it down to the first 2 1/2 hash lines (now 3 1/2). So I was using that terminology in my post.
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    Fine to do what he Dr says but your friend is not doing you any favors by giving your other drugs to take while your still sorting out your TRT protocol. Talk about screw with your blood results and obviously side effects. As you said itchy bumps which is probably acne due to high estrogen.
    Like PapaSmurf said stop everything except what the Dr prescribed.

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    If you have a standard 10ml bottle of testosterone cypionate, which it sounds like you do, this means 1ml or 1cc (both are the same thing) equals 200mg. That means each tenth mark on the syringe or hash mark as you said it will give you 20mg of testosterone cypionate. This means you're injecting 50mg of testosterone cypionate per injection with your initial dose and now you're injecting 70mg per injection with your new dose. This is not an uncommon dose for a man your age. For some reason older men typically require less testosterone per injection to get their levels to an optimal range than younger men despite older men carrying higher levels of SHBG. In my opinion that really doesn't make a lot of sense but it seems to hold true...most of the time. In your case, however, it's obviously not holding true if your testosterone levels are still not improving or only improving slightly. If you stay at this dose for a period of time, hopefully you will see an improvement in your levels...it sounds like this new dose is fairly new, at least that's what your post somewhat implies. If it doesn't work, hopefully your doctor will adjust the dose. Some men actually need a good bit more just to get to the optimal range.

    Your HGH, this is not a fast acting compound. It can take months and months of use to really see results. However, if you're actually using 20iu per day this will make a noticeable difference much sooner, especially if it's real HGH. But I highly doubt you're actually injecting 20iu's...that's an extremely high dose, that's a pro bodybuilder dose and would mean you're injecting two full vials worth each and every time you use it...maybe I'm wrong but I doubt that's what you're doing. If you are, you're spending a fortune. Further, if you've never used HGH before and started injecting 20iu per injection there's a good chance you'd notice some strong blood sugar issues.

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    Thanks guys. Will take the advice until I have a better understanding of what I have and what I am doing. As to Metalject, the syringe I am using is a 1/2 ml insulin syringe and says U-100 on the syringe. It has 50 little hash lines with the last one being 50 units. I was instructed to take 20 units using that syringe.

    Appreciate the advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by results1st View Post
    Thanks guys. Will take the advice until I have a better understanding of what I have and what I am doing. As to Metalject, the syringe I am using is a 1/2 ml insulin syringe and says U-100 on the syringe. It has 50 little hash lines with the last one being 50 units. I was instructed to take 20 units using that syringe.

    Appreciate the advise.
    If you take a vial that contains 10iu of HGH and mix it with 1ml of water you would have to inject the full mixed 1ml that's now in the vial to get a 10iu injection. Once you mix it with 1ml of water each tenth of a milliliter now equals 1iu or 1 unit of HGH. Does that help it make a little more sense?

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    Sorry for the delayed response was away on business/vacation. Yes it does Metalject. Thank you for the response.

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