Need help/advice on irritating gyno problem..

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 06:34 PM

Flame me "I deserve it" then help me..I was on letro for about 6 weeks at 1/4 cc eod..for preixisting gyno never noticable just small knott that was hurting alil bit..So about 2weeks ago i started liquidex at 0.25 ed then after aweek I took my first shot of 50 mgs prop 350mgs test E okay so it's been 5 days..and my nipp is hurting when i press on it..and I can tell its swelling out slightly..nobody else would be able too tell..just me I have very small nipps so I guess that helps..anyways I have been pressing it around not hard but slightly,, for about aweek now..I know that's a no no..but I get paranoid..should the arimidex not be holding it back?? Should I up it?? My balsa are already shrinking up even..I really would like too avoid stoping this cycle..what should my next move be? Could messing with it alone cause the problem?.. I've the liquidex, and also I have nolvadex , clomid, and a small amount of letro left all from ARR..maybe start the nolvadex ?

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 07:54 PM

If you have gyno, Adex won't do anything to rid you of it. Your next move should be Ralox at 80mg daily until it's gone.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-10-2013, 07:56 PM

^^ This.

And stop playing with them!

**Antonious** · 03-10-2013, 09:09 PM

Quick question, why cant he take letro (+ order some more)?

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by drsblls

Quick question, why cant he take letro (+ order some more)?

He can. But it's far too harsh of a compound. There are better alternatives, like Ralox or Tamox.

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 09:31 PM

Tamox? Is nolvadex correct? That's what I have on hand? What should I dose at 20mg daily?

**MickeyKnox** · 03-10-2013, 09:39 PM

Tamoxifen is Nolvadex .

Folks have done well with Nolva @ 10mg/day on cycle, along with normal AI protocols to keep Gyno in check.

*Note: This will not eliminate any pre existing Gyno*

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

If you have gyno, Adex won't do anything to rid you of it. Your next move should be Ralox at 80mg daily until it's gone.

Also I know arimidex won't do anythang for gyno but if it controls estrogen levels should it atleast keep it from getting worse?

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Tamoxifen is Nolvadex .

Folks have done well with Nolva @ 10mg/day on cycle, along with normal AI protocols to keep Gyno in check.

*Note: This will not eliminate any pre existing Gyno*

Yes sir that's what I thought, and will try, I just started the arimidex like 4days before my first shot thanking it would control and keep from getting worse while on cycle.. But for sum reason it is irritated..don't know if it's from me messing with it ? Letro rebound? Or maybe just the simple 50mgs of prop?..

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 09:45 PM

You could try tamox at 40/20/20/20/20 etc... until gone.

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 09:50 PM

And continue arimidex at 0.25?

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 09:51 PM

At this stage I would go get some blood work done. Any Adex suggestions would be a guessing game.

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 09:53 PM

Well heck I'm all confused now..I'm seteting here tryn too figure out what too take before I go too sleep..

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2013, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

At this stage I would go get some blood work done. Any Adex suggestions would be a guessing game.

^^^You beat me too this!

BW would be the best way to see what is happening. Randomly dosing pills is a "shot gun in the dark" approach. There are plenty of useful meds to reduce gyno symptoms IF the mass hasn't become dense or fibrous which could require a surgical resection to eliminate. Evista (raloxifene), femara, and tamoxifen are standards for early stage gyno but in the future, follow a proper AI protocol so you aren't forced to treat something that my have been avoided.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-10-2013, 10:02 PM

The best we do is offer some type of immediate assistance to provide some sort of relief for you.

But I think the problem here is that you have pre existing Gyno and youre attempting to run a cycle without having done bloodwork for a solid baseline to refer to. At this point i feel the most responsible advice would be to abort this cycle - you've only done one small shot of Prop and one shot of Enth, so this shouldn't present a problem.

Then you can concentrate on squaring away your pre existing Gyno and have proper bloodwork done to determine where your baseline is.

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 10:05 PM

Wow is this tamox suppost too burn kinda??????????

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 10:05 PM

I feel like I took a shot of wisky and it kinda wonts too come back up??

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 10:06 PM

Horrible bitter after taste..

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 10:08 PM

I can't get the taste out of my mouth it's horrible..lol..

**Terminator** · 03-10-2013, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^You beat me too this!

BW would be the best way to see what is happening. Randomly dosing pills is a "shot gun in the dark" approach. There are plenty of useful meds to reduce gyno symptoms IF the mass hasn't become dense or fibrous which could require a surgical resection to eliminate. Evista (raloxifene), femara, and tamoxifen are standards for early stage gyno but in the future, follow a proper AI protocol so you aren't forced to treat something that my have been avoided.

Thanks for the help,, yea I never did a proper AI or PCT until now so I defintly brought this on myself just don't won't it too get worse

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^You beat me too this!

BW would be the best way to see what is happening. Randomly dosing pills is a "shot gun in the dark" approach. There are plenty of useful meds to reduce gyno symptoms IF the mass hasn't become dense or fibrous which could require a surgical resection to eliminate. Evista (raloxifene), femara, and tamoxifen are standards for early stage gyno but in the future, follow a proper AI protocol so you aren't forced to treat something that my have been avoided.

To. Not too.

Now we're even!!

**JWP806** · 03-10-2013, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Terminator

Wow is this tamox suppost too burn kinda??????????

Yep, it tastes like shit. Just take a drink of something and then take the nolva while you still have some liquid in your mouth. Easiest way to mask the taste. Or as some will probably say "just man up..."

I agree though, it sucks. Good luck with the gyno, sir.