New Member....in need of help

[mrmakeyousmile]

Good day everyone, hope all is well. I have just recently found this site and boy was I reliefed that there is a network joining people whom share an interest. For the past year or so I was stationed in a remote area of the country where everything was limited and any interenet access was miles away. So you can imagine how happy I am to find this site. unfortunately for me I had no knowledge of this site before doing my first AAS cycle. I am 20 years old (I realize now after reading forums on here that I should have waited at least 4 years)
I did the cycle and gained 18 pounds and kept the weight but strength went down expectedly. I also did my PCT but now I feel like my natural test is not back to its proper levels. I'm not sure if its just a matter of time but its been over a month.To be frank I have no sex drive anymore and my erections which are not full erections dont even last long enough to have sex. Iam afraid I have damaged myself beyond my understanding. Any advice/input would be much appreciated.
My cycle was
15 weeks Test E 1.5 ml intra muscular twice a week
first 4 weeks Dbol 40mg a day
The PCT was:
Hcg 10 days after last injection, injected EOD 30cc for a two weeks
Clomid 18 days after last injection: 3 tabs a day for 4 days then 2 tabs for a week then stop
Nolva 18 days after last injection: 2 tabs for 10 days then 1 tab til pack is finished

[MickeyKnox]

Good day everyone, hope all is well. I have just recently found this site and boy was I reliefed that there is a network joining people whom share an interest. For the past year or so I was stationed in a remote area of the country where everything was limited and any interenet access was miles away. So you can imagine how happy I am to find this site. unfortunately for me I had no knowledge of this site before doing my first AAS cycle. I am 20 years old (I realize now after reading forums on here that I should have waited at least 4 years)
I did the cycle and gained 18 pounds and kept the weight but strength went down expectedly. I also did my PCT but now I feel like my natural test is not back to its proper levels. I'm not sure if its just a matter of time but its been over a month.To be frank I have no sex drive anymore and my erections which are not full erections dont even last long enough to have sex. Iam afraid I have damaged myself beyond my understanding. Any advice/input would be much appreciated.
My cycle was
15 weeks Test E 1.5 ml intra muscular twice a week
first 4 weeks Dbol 40mg a day
The PCT was:
Hcg 10 days after last injection, injected EOD 30cc for a two weeks
Clomid 18 days after last injection: 3 tabs a day for 4 days then 2 tabs for a week then stop
Nolva 18 days after last injection: 2 tabs for days then 1 tab til pack is finished

Two reasons that jump out at me;

1. You began AAS too young while your endocrine system was still developing. (possible damage)

2. Your PCT was not ran properly or long enough to reboot your HPTA.

You could try to reboot again using a standard protocol.

BUT, im not 100% sure on how this is administered. Perhaps someone else will offer some guidance, or one of the HRT Specialists will see this and advise further.

[Armykid93]

Two reasons that jump out at me;

1. You began AAS too young while your endocrine system was still developing. (possible damage)

2. Your PCT was not ran properly or long enough to reboot your HPTA.

You could try to reboot again using a standard protocol.

BUT, im not 100% sure on how this is administered. Perhaps someone else will offer some guidance, or one of the HRT Specialists will see this and advise further.

X2 I hope you didn't damage yourself brotha. Your in the right place though, the vets will get you back on track.

[BBrian]

Mickey probably hit the nail on the head when he suggested that your PCT protocol lacked the duration necessary to be effective, although we have no idea how long "til pack is finished" actually is in regards to the Nolvadex. And on that note, you didn't specify the dosage (milligrams) of your Clomid and Nolvadex either. I find it interesting that you're having these problems at age 20; when I was 22 I performed a cycle of sustanon for ten weeks, had no knowledge of controlling estrogen levels or PCT, and I bounced right back into natural testosterone production. But we're all different physiologically (patting myself on the gonads here).

Mickey probably also gave you the best advice by suggesting that you start a PCT all over again, but this time conducting it properly. Taking Clomid and Nolvadex through the following formula is what I would probably suggest, based on the lack of details provided;

Four Week PCT:
Clomid - 75mg every day for one week, then 50mg every day for the following three weeks
Nolva - 40mg every day for one week, then 20mg every day for the following three weeks

This is a very general guideline, and many people have different preferences, hopefully based on the amount and multitude of compounds used. But your situation strikes me as a simple one. If anyone else feels that they have a better protocol for this situation, please pipe in.

[songdog]

I agree with Mickey hope things workout for you.

[mrmakeyousmile]

Mickey probably hit the nail on the head when he suggested that your PCT protocol lacked the duration necessary to be effective, although we have no idea how long "til pack is finished" actually is in regards to the Nolvadex. And on that note, you didn't specify the dosage (milligrams) of your Clomid and Nolvadex either. I find it interesting that you're having these problems at age 20; when I was 22 I performed a cycle of sustanon for ten weeks, had no knowledge of controlling estrogen levels or PCT, and I bounced right back into natural testosterone production. But we're all different physiologically (patting myself on the gonads here).

Mickey probably also gave you the best advice by suggesting that you start a PCT all over again, but this time conducting it properly. Taking Clomid and Nolvadex through the following formula is what I would probably suggest, based on the lack of details provided;

Four Week PCT:
Clomid - 75mg every day for one week, then 50mg every day for the following three weeks
Nolva - 40mg every day for one week, then 20mg every day for the following three weeks

This is a very general guideline, and many people have different preferences, hopefully based on the amount and multitude of compounds used. But your situation strikes me as a simple one. If anyone else feels that they have a better protocol for this situation, please pipe in.

I hope it is a simple situation. I have read quite a few things that say clomid and nolvadex do the same thing in different ways, what do you think of that. I was debating seeing a family doctor but am very hesitant because I dont know how much help he can do and I dont know the reaction this will produce, and I'm leaving the country in a month so I have to act fast

[mrmakeyousmile]

Two reasons that jump out at me;

1. You began AAS too young while your endocrine system was still developing. (possible damage)

2. Your PCT was not ran properly or long enough to reboot your HPTA.

You could try to reboot again using a standard protocol.

BUT, im not 100% sure on how this is administered. Perhaps someone else will offer some guidance, or one of the HRT Specialists will see this and advise further.

Thank you for your input, I do regret beginning AAS too young and I strongly regret being misguided. Is there a way in which I can get the attention of the HRT specialists for their advice or do I have to hope the come across this thread

[stpete]

Start Nolva @40mgs ED for 2 weeks. Should be able to drop it down to 20mgs for 2 more weeks after the initial 40mgs.

I wouldn't use the clomid at all right now.

[mrmakeyousmile]

X2 I hope you didn't damage yourself brotha. Your in the right place though, the vets will get you back on track.

I hope I didnt damage myself either man. Thanks for your concern I appreciate it. Is there any way I can get the attention of the vets or do we leave that to the natural process of evolution lol

[mrmakeyousmile]

Thanks for your input brotha Lord knows I need it right now. I ran 40mgs of nolva ED for 10 days then 20 mgs ED after that, are you suggesting I start again with 40mgs for two weeks and continue with 20mgs for two more weeks?

[mrmakeyousmile]

I agree with Mickey hope things workout for you.

Thanks brotha I hope things work out for me as well, I appreciate you taking the time to read this.