After reading what Clomid and Tamoxifen do. It makes me wonder if a male who has had a vasectomy or has no desire to father children has any need to include Clomid in the PCT interval. Is there a recommended PCT protocol for men in this category?
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After reading what Clomid and Tamoxifen do. It makes me wonder if a male who has had a vasectomy or has no desire to father children has any need to include Clomid in the PCT interval. Is there a recommended PCT protocol for men in this category?
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Yes, you should still PCT.
You're testies are still attached and working, it's just the tube that delivers sperm that is cut.
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i am guessing pct should be the same, regardless of the status of the vas.
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PCT is not just for sperm production, it is to restore natural test production. And you need test throughout the body, not only for sperm production. Always run pct except if you are on trt. Then only continue normal trt protocol after cycle.
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Maybe if you don't mind growing a set of titties lol... seriously tho, do the PCT!
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what has gyno got to do with PCT?Originally Posted by kfizzle187
and Al is not talking about skipping PCT. he is talking about not using clomid in PCT.
Last edited by AD; 03-14-2013 at 02:39 AM.
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what has gyno got to do with PCT?
Last edited by kfizzle187; 03-14-2013 at 04:27 AM.
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Pretty sure that's what I have read hundreds of times... must be some kind of myth. Estrogen produces gyno right? After your cycle you have increased estrogen and lower test... estrogen =titties!!!!
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Not absolutely correct kf. In men, estro is produced by conversion from circulating test. During a cycle, there is high circulating test. and so, by conversion/aromatisation, there is also high level of estro. This is when you worry about estro control and gyno prevention. After the cycle, before pct, test level drops and estro follows.
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Yes, but low testosterone will leave you in an estrogen dominant state where you are most prone to developing gyno. This is why so many guys get gyno after a cycle of non-aromatising steroids.
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