Somewhat of a novice cycle. Opinions?

[11Bsoldier]

I have done 2 cycles before this. The past 2 were rather mild. The first was EQ at 300mg/w for 8 weeks. I was going to go for 12 but I got cut off because or work. My next cycle was was EQ 400mg/w for 12 weeks and var 50 mg/ed for 6 weeks off for 3 weeks then another 8 weeks building up to 100mg/ed which I handled without any problems. So for my next cycle I was think


Week Test-P Eq or Bold-A var
1 125mg/eod 400mg 50mg/ed
2 125mg/eod 400mg 50mg/ed
3 125mg/eod 400mg 75mg/ed
4 125mg/eod 400mg 75mg/ed
5 125mg/eod 400mg 100mg/ed
6 125mg/eod 400mg 100mg/ed
7 125mg/eod 400mg
8 125mg/eod 400mg
9 125mg/eod 400mg
10 125mg/eod 400mg 100mg/ed
11 125mg/eod 400mg 100mg/ed
12 125mg/eod 400mg 100mg/ed
13-17 100mg/ed
while taking Aromasin 25mg/ed for 14 weeks

Any suggestions on anything? Plus I was wondering If I can sub out EQ for Boldenone Acetate. I hate the fact I have to wait weeks for it to kick in. I also plan on intaking 1.5x my body weight in protein every day. Plus being in the military I do mostly cardio in the mornings for a hour then do weights for around 2 hours in the evening.

[SuperVision]

I wouldn't say Eq is a novice choice at all; makes your blood really thick, through the release of erythropoietin.

Many people would go give blood in the middle of a cycle of this.

Also, for some individuals during PCT its like taking a sledgehammer to your dick.

Just my .02

[Provita]

Hcg ?

PCT?

Why high dose aromasin ?

[11Bsoldier]

LOL! I'm really paranoid about gyno

[MuscleInk]

LOL! I'm really paranoid about gyno

25mg/day is crazy. You could possibly crash your E2 and then you'd feel a lot worse!

[11Bsoldier]

so suggestions? I have never ran test so was trying to be on the safest side I guess

[Provita]

LOL! I'm really paranoid about gyno

If you are afraid of fire, that does not mean you should just go and drown yourself in water. Meet half way bro, 12.5mg ed.

And still what about hcg and pct?

[Provita]

Here is mickey's link to biginner cycles. Read through it, as well as all the links inside. It will help you understand things much better. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.UUJFPvoazTo

[11Bsoldier]

Ok I got a little confused the taking the 12.5 dosage (all I can get ahold of) wouldn't be worth but just read one of Mickey's articles and makes it seem like 10mg/ed would be better and increase if this start happening. As far as PCT I saw a PCT cycle that had this
Week hCG Nolvadex
1 350IU/ed
2 350IU/ed (the first 3 days of the week only) 40mg/ed
3 40mg/ed
4 20mg/ed
5 20mg/ed

so was probably going to go with that.

[MuscleInk]

Ok I got a little confused the taking the 12.5 dosage (all I can get ahold of) wouldn't be worth but just read one of Mickey's articles and makes it seem like 10mg/ed would be better and increase if this start happening. As far as PCT I saw a PCT cycle that had this
Week hCG Nolvadex
1 350IU/ed
2 350IU/ed (the first 3 days of the week only) 40mg/ed
3 40mg/ed
4 20mg/ed
5 20mg/ed

so was probably going to go with that.

Most people prefer to run HCG around mid cycle, not PCT. HCG mimics LH and will help with spermatogenesis induction and restarting your testes through androgen production. Why wait until the air is completely out of your tires before pumping them up again. Right?

Exemestane is often run at 12.5mg EOD.

[MickeyKnox]

so suggestions? I have never ran test so was trying to be on the safest side I guess

I have a suggestion. Why don't you just stick to a regular cycle like the ones in the link that was provided for you, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.


1. Testosterone

2. Oral kicker

3. AI

4. hCG

5. PCT.


End of story.

[Provita]

Ok I got a little confused the taking the 12.5 dosage (all I can get ahold of) wouldn't be worth but just read one of Mickey's articles and makes it seem like 10mg/ed would be better and increase if this start happening. As far as PCT I saw a PCT cycle that had this
Week hCG Nolvadex
1 350IU/ed
2 350IU/ed (the first 3 days of the week only) 40mg/ed
3 40mg/ed
4 20mg/ed
5 20mg/ed

so was probably going to go with that.

10mg aromasin is fine.

HCG during PCT is old school and not affective. Read this link and it would make sense. Hcg protocol is 250iu x2 per week. From day 1 till 4 days before pct. I prefer it at 250iu 3x per week. But thats just my preference.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UUJHzPoazTp


Check mickey's thread for proper PCT protocol. Also read the stickies on the top of the forum.

[Provita]

I have a suggestion. Why don't you just stick to a regular cycle like the ones in the link that was provided for you, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.


1. Testosterone

2. Oral kicker

3. AI

4. hCG

5. PCT.


End of story.

Agree!! And read up please...

[MuscleInk]

I have a suggestion. Why don't you just stick to a regular cycle like the ones in the link that was provided for you, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.

1. Testosterone

2. Oral kicker

3. AI

4. hCG

5. PCT.

End of story.

^^^What Mickey said.....and how is NOT running testosterone during a cycle "safe". When you cycle you shut down your own testosterone production so why wouldn't you want to replace it with an exogenous source?

[11Bsoldier]

The idea around the EQ was simply I have used it before and liked the results. That simple. But would save a little money by dropping it. I think I will probably just g with Mickey's Short ester option 2 on that link Provita showed me. Maybe a little higher dosage on the var just because I know I can handle it. But a question on the cycle. it says "Wk 1-8 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before Prop. Same day as AI." so I will be starting the AI and hCG 1 day before first test pin? and continue for the whole cycle?

[Provita]

Lol... What mickey says! :-)

[MickeyKnox]

The idea around the EQ was simply I have used it before and liked the results. That simple. But would save a little money by dropping it. I think I will probably just g with Mickey's Short ester option 2 on that link Provita showed me. Maybe a little higher dosage on the var just because I know I can handle it. But a question on the cycle. it says "Wk 1-8 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before Prop. Same day as AI." so I will be starting the AI and hCG 1 day before first test pin? and continue for the whole cycle?

No. Just run your hCG twice a wk. When using long esters and pinning twice per wk, the protocol is a bit different. Just stick with twice per wk hCG and your AI is EOD.

(ill remove that portion that you pointed out. It should not be lumped in with the short ester cycles. Thanks)

[11Bsoldier]

Thanks for the help guys. Unfortunately some of the other forums on other sites they just tell you to straight up go **** yourself. But I just have one last question. Is the AI ED or EOD? Your cycle says "Wk 1-8 Aromasin 10mg ED - monitor and adjust accordingly." And you are saying EOD now. Not trying to be a dick just trying to get everything clear and worked out. Now just to find somewhere to get hCG lol.

[Provita]

Aromasin 10mg ed
Arimidex 0.25 mg eod

Any of those two. Sorry for the mix up.

[Provita]

For some hcg you can always have a pregnant lady pee on you, but I don't recommend that. It's difficult to control the dosage :-) lol

[MickeyKnox]

Aromasin 10mg ed
Arimidex 0.25 mg eod

Any of those two. Sorry for the mix up.

Exactly. Aromasin is an ED (every day) protocol. But Arimidex is EOD (every other day) Two different AI's, that do a similar job, and are dosed differently.

[11Bsoldier]

Hmmm for some reason I don't think my sister would be ok with peeing on her brother LOL! But again thanks for the help.

[MuscleInk]

Exactly. Aromasin is an ED (every day) protocol. But Arimidex is EOD (every other day) Two different AI's, that do a similar job, and are dosed differently.

Sorry, my bad too. I've typed EOD so often that my phone autocorrects for it. Didn't see the stane at EOD in my message.

Aromasin is ED and Anastrozole EOD.

[MuscleInk]

Hmmm for some reason I don't think my sister would be ok with peeing on her brother LOL! But again thanks for the help.

There's always pregnant rat urine.....as long as you don't mind growing a tail and whiskers!

[Provita]

Hmmm for some reason I don't think my sister would be ok with peeing on her brother LOL! But again thanks for the help.

Lol, yeah... That can't be fun :-)

Anyway bro, good luck!!

[Provita]

There's always pregnant rat urine.....as long as you don't mind growing a tail and whiskers!

Lol, that would be one bad ass military rat. :-)

[11Bsoldier]

LOL If it was a monkey tail I could find use for it.