Is it true that gains will plateau on a long cycle if you do not increase the dose?

**RyanGreg** · 03-14-2013, 04:22 PM

For example a 20+ week cycle I heard your gains will stop around weeks 12-14?

This is why some people choose to blast for 8 weeks then cruise on 2 weeks TRT dose so there body is not use to all the anabolics in the system and then back on another blast later followed by PCT.

**MuscleInk** · 03-14-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by RyanGreg

For example a 20+ week cycle I heard your gains will stop around weeks 12-14?

This is why some people choose to blast for 8 weeks then cruise on 2 weeks TRT dose so there body is not use to all the anabolics in the system and then back on another blast later followed by PCT.

Cruising and blasting refers to completing a cycle (blasting) and then returning to TRT (cruising). Guys who need TRT don't finish a cycle with PCT because it makes little sense - they don't produce enough testosterone on their own an need the hormone replacement therapy to maintain age appropriate levels of testosterone .

Guys with a healthy neuroendocrine system and normal testosterone levels really should NOT cruise and blast. They should follow a normal cycle protocol (cycle+PCT).

**Provita** · 03-14-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Cruising and blasting refers to completing a cycle (blasting) and then returning to TRT (cruising). Guys who need TRT don't finish a cycle with PCT because it makes little sense - they don't produce enough testosterone on their own an need the hormone replacement therapy to maintain age appropriate levels of testosterone .

Guys with a healthy neuroendocrine system and normal testosterone levels really should cruise and blast. They should follow a normal cycle protocol (cycle+PCT).

Don't you mean "should not cruise and blast"?

**MuscleInk** · 03-14-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Provita

Don't you mean "should not cruise and blast"?

Oops, crap! Thanks buddy. I corrected my original response. Good catch.

**RyanGreg** · 03-14-2013, 04:43 PM

I though some people who are not on TRT do blast/cruise a couple times then go into PCT? Like 1 8 week blast a 2 week cruise then 8 week blast again and THEN there PCT.

**Provita** · 03-14-2013, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Oops, crap! Thanks buddy. I corrected my original response. Good catch.

:-)!

**trenhead1** · 03-14-2013, 04:44 PM

Interesting thread I'm planning on a 24 weeks blast here will I be effected and hit the brick wall around week 12 - 14

**Provita** · 03-14-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by RyanGreg

I though some people who are not on TRT do blast/cruise a couple times then go into PCT? Like 1 8 week blast a 2 week cruise then 8 week blast again and THEN there PCT.

TRT = No PCT! There is nothing left to recover.

**MuscleInk** · 03-14-2013, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by RyanGreg

I though some people who are not on TRT do blast/cruise a couple times then go into PCT? Like 1 8 week blast a 2 week cruise then 8 week blast again and THEN there PCT.

It's not a protocol I'd recommend. I'd rather run a steady dose for 12 weeks and then cruise (in my case) or do a PCT (in the case of men with normal T levels).

**Bio-Active** · 03-14-2013, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by trenhead1

Interesting thread I'm planning on a 24 weeks blast here will I be effected and hit the brick wall around week 12 - 14

What are your stats and cycle experience?

**trenhead1** · 03-14-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

What are your stats and cycle experience?

Around 90kg
15% body fat plan on this cycle bulk 12 weeks cut 12 weeks
Cycle experience
I've done a few a good 5-6 mainly test tren mast cycles had huge complications on this cycle as I felt I was getting to fat on deca then decided to bulk then cut

**fit2bOld** · 03-14-2013, 05:46 PM

Such a beginner question from the I'm getting my pro card guy. Why dont you find a new hobby Ryangreg. Unless you have turned over a new leaf and actully want to learn something. Then you should apologize to the board for being a gamer.

**MuscleInk** · 03-14-2013, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

Such a beginner question from the I'm getting my pro card guy. Why dont you find a new hobby Ryangreg. Unless you have turned over a new leaf and actully want to learn something. Then you should apologize to the board for being a gamer.

Oh is this THAT guy? Didn't know that. You're on your game as usual Fit.

**Bio-Active** · 03-14-2013, 06:21 PM

Age?.........

Originally Posted by trenhead1

Around 90kg
15% body fat plan on this cycle bulk 12 weeks cut 12 weeks
Cycle experience
I've done a few a good 5-6 mainly test tren mast cycles had huge complications on this cycle as I felt I was getting to fat on deca then decided to bulk then cut

**trenhead1** · 03-14-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Age?.........

23 pal

**diesel101** · 03-14-2013, 06:55 PM

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23 pal[/QUOTe.
No matter how many times you tell the young people the
dangers of it they never seem to listen. Sometimes its like beating a dead dog, its just a waste of time

**trenhead1** · 03-14-2013, 07:13 PM

Don't beat ya self pal I didn't have access to net when I started aas and no one told me dangers so live and learn all I no is that I'm getting this 200kg bench by the time I'm 25 oh ye

**RyanGreg** · 03-14-2013, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Provita

TRT = No PCT! There is nothing left to recover.

TRT dose I was meaning like 150mg/week for the cruise then back into a blast then PCT

**Back In Black** · 03-15-2013, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by RyanGreg

TRT dose I was meaning like 150mg/week for the cruise then back into a blast then PCT

Just stay on permanently, that's what most pro's do.

Of course, you could just cut the BS, explain your other threads by revisiting them and answering your critics and apologise for the lies. Alternatively keep up your charade and get next to almost no help.

Your choice!

**fit2bOld** · 03-15-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Just stay on permanently, that's what most pro's do.

Of course, you could just cut the BS, explain your other threads by revisiting them and answering your critics and apologise for the lies. Alternatively keep up your charade and get next to almost no help.

Your choice!

Really the guys here aren't very interested in playing your game anymore. Your more than likely never worked out a day in your life.

**Lunk1** · 03-15-2013, 09:27 AM

While I understand it doesnt work this way..I vote to ban RyanGreg! He continues to make BS threads packed full of lies. Move on youngster....BB.com awaits you.

**ChiveOn** · 03-15-2013, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

While I understand it doesnt work this way..I vote to ban RyanGreg! He continues to make BS threads packed full of lies. Move on youngster....BB.com awaits you.

That or move to ************. They seem to suck at life also. You're never gonna hear the end of this on this board. Give up your post count, start a new username, and don't be a liar next time. Kthx

**ChiveOn** · 03-15-2013, 09:44 AM

Hmmm didn't realize it would ban the name of another forum?

**fit2bOld** · 03-15-2013, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

While I understand it doesnt work this way..I vote to ban RyanGreg! He continues to make BS threads packed full of lies. Move on youngster....BB.com awaits you.

Get the ban hammer!!!