Back on track and looking forward to new cycle ......please crtique

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 11:37 AM

I had messed up my test and estrogen levels months and months ago I got everything back to normal with a
strong solid PCT and HRT. Going forward after a lot of research I have come up with a good plan please tell me what you think

30 yrs old
6ft 6in
285 lbs 10-13% bf

training for 10 yrs

test e 600 a week 20 weeks
eq 600 a week 12 weeks
anastrozole .5-1.0 mg ED
clen 120 mcgs 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

PCT
10 days after last injection, HCG 1000 iu days days
day after last hcg shot nolvadex
wk1- 40mg ed
wk2- 40mg ed
wk3- 20mg ed
wk4- 20mg ed
wk5- 20mg ed
wk6- 20mg ed

**Euroholic** · 03-16-2013, 11:40 AM

What are your goals cutting? Drop the eq and run the test for 12 weeks.
Use the hcg 250iu twice a week during your cycle. Are you on hrt? Maybe dont worry about it if you are.

**Euroholic** · 03-16-2013, 11:43 AM

Maybe drop the clen or use it for pct

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 11:46 AM

no more hrt anymore.....that just rebalanced me after starting and stopping previous cycles aburtly

yes cutting is the goal while trying to get som added lean mass, would switching eq for deca make any sense ???

**Euroholic** · 03-16-2013, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by starrookie6

no more hrt anymore.....that just rebalanced me after starting and stopping previous cycles aburtly

yes cutting is the goal while trying to get som added lean mass, would switching eq for deca make any sense ???

No no deca .. More compounds are not a good idea. Especially a 19nor. Test and var for a lean cut if you must. But test is always fine..

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 11:51 AM

I dont know much about anavar .....havent researched it much , whats the good and bad of it ?

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 12:11 PM

so I read that 100mcgs ed is a good amount ......but how long do you go on for ? and do you start it the same time as the test e ?

**Euroholic** · 03-16-2013, 12:12 PM

Run the var for your last 6 weeks

**Tron3219** · 03-16-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by starrookie6

I had messed up my test and estrogen levels months and months ago I got everything back to normal with a
strong solid PCT and HRT. Going forward after a lot of research I have come up with a good plan please tell me what you think

30 yrs old
6ft 6in
285 lbs 10-13% bf

training for 10 yrs

test e 600 a week 20 weeks
eq 600 a week 12 weeks
anastrozole .5-1.0 mg ED
clen 120 mcgs 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

PCT
10 days after last injection, HCG 1000 iu days days
day after last hcg shot nolvadex
wk1- 40mg ed
wk2- 40mg ed
wk3- 20mg ed
wk4- 20mg ed
wk5- 20mg ed
wk6- 20mg ed

Drop test to 500
Drop eq
Adex needs to be started at .25 EOD increased to .5 eod if need b, but .25 will probably b good.

Pct is 14 days after last shot
Hcg need to be stopped 4-5 days before pct starts
Add clomid to pct

And if ur going to run anavar , run it the first 4-6 80-100mg ed plus taurine. But if stick to test only till you learn how to do proper cycles.

-TroN-

**Tron3219** · 03-16-2013, 12:21 PM

And I wanna see 285 10-13%...pics please

-TroN-

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 12:34 PM

why have clomid and noladex at same time ?

**Euroholic** · 03-16-2013, 12:42 PM

Because the two combined are a good mix at kick starting your test levels. I dont use clomid my eyes are bad enough as it is.

**Tron3219** · 03-16-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by starrookie6

why have clomid and noladex at same time ?

Clomid stimulates GnRH and nolvadex stimulates lh and fsh...in part they work synergistically together, they do the same thing but on different pathways. If memory serves me correctly, clomid acts on the hypothalamus to produce GnRH, which is the signal for thw pituitary to secrete lh amd fsh and i believe tsh as well. Nolva works on the pituitary to secrete lh and fsh.

-TroN-

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 01:08 PM

wow ...I always thought that from reading the home page here, you just needed to pick one of the two , nolva being the better choice....good to know

**Tron3219** · 03-16-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by starrookie6

wow ...I always thought that from reading the home page here, you just needed to pick one of the two , nolva being the better choice....good to know

Pct protocol is a pretty debated topic. But I think the standard protocol is typically nolva/clomid. And why risk it, they are both fairly cheap

-TroN-

**starrookie6** · 03-16-2013, 01:12 PM

only conflicting opinon i see is one says var in the begining and one says var the last 6 weeks ????

**Tron3219** · 03-16-2013, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by starrookie6

only conflicting opinon i see is one says var in the begining and one says var the last 6 weeks ????

I say don't run the var, but if you MUST I say run it first 4-6 weeks to get a jump start on ur cycle being that it has an extremely short half life you'll feel the effects within the first 10 days at most. And use the aas as an aid to stave off muscle loss during a cal deficit and rely on diet to get u to your goals.

-TroN-