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    Smile What you think of this for second cycle??overkill?

    Hows this for 2nd cycle ?? Just need some back up thats all ....

    D-anabol 40mg ed week 1-5 280mg pw
    deca 200mg e3d week 1-10 400mg pw
    sustanon 250mg e3d week 1-12 500mg pw

    pct

    clomid 100mg ed week 1.......... then 50mg ed weeks 2,3,4.......... weeks 15-19(4 weeks).......... 700mg per week 1 and then 350mg per week 2,3,4
    nolvadex 40mg ed week 1......... then 20mg ed weeks 2,3,4,5,6.... week 15-21(6weeks) ...........280mg per week 1 and then 140mg per week 2,3,4,5,6


    pct + time on = time off

    12 weeks on + 6 weeks PCT+3 weeks wait =21 weeks off in total

    I really want to do the cycles as close as i can together id rather not wait 21 weeks ..........
    any sugestions how can i bridge them and what are the downfalls between bridging and coming off??????
    Please if you have any tweaks im happy to hear you out ........ Thank you to those who have helped
    Last edited by !!!MYSTIC!!!; 03-19-2013 at 03:02 AM.

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    Up your Deca to at least 300mg/wk

    Sust is typically an 18 day ester.

    Include entire time of cycle including wait times.

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    hey there thanks for the reply....deca is already at 400mg pw but you think that is a good cycle for maximum gains?? is the nolva and clomid necesary at all?? and also am i right to take it the way ive stated or wait for symptoms of glycoma??thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!MYSTIC!!! View Post
    hey there thanks for the reply....deca is already at 400mg pw but you think that is a good cycle for maximum gains?? is the nolva and clomid necesary at all?? and also am i right to take it the way ive stated or wait for symptoms of glycoma??thank you
    Im sorry i misread that Mystic, my apologies.

    PCT is fine but i would reduce your Clomid daily values in the second wk, and for the remainder of protocol, to half - 50mg.

    Nolva first wk should be 40mg then half, 20mg, the remainder of protocol.

    Do not wait for any symptoms. Run your PCT regardless whether you think you require it or not.

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    No worries bro , thanks heaps for the help much appreciated .....if i cant get the d-anabol is it still good to run this cycle minus the d-anabol??everything stays the same? thanks again actually looking forward to my next cycle !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!MYSTIC!!!
    No worries bro , thanks heaps for the help much appreciated .....if i cant get the d-anabol is it still good to run this cycle minus the d-anabol??everything stays the same? thanks again actually looking forward to my next cycle !!
    Yeah you would be fine without the dbol

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    Too much compounds for 2nd cycle IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Too much compounds for 2nd cycle IMO.


    what do you suggest i drop or tweak??

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    Quote Originally Posted by !!!MYSTIC!!!

    what do you suggest i drop or tweak??
    I recommend running TEST ONLY for first couple cycles.

    If you wanna add something do dbol 30mg/day first 4weeks( if you are using short ester(prop) no need to run it)

    Deca can wait.. This is not a race mate!

    Grow to your compounds and dosages to get most of every cycle!

    Good luck

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    already ran deca with sus first cycle..(stupid i know )

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    I recommend running TEST ONLY for first couple cycles.

    If you wanna add something do dbol 30mg/day first 4weeks( if you are using short ester(prop) no need to run it)

    Deca can wait.. This is not a race mate!

    Grow to your compounds and dosages to get most of every cycle!

    Good luck



    ok sounds good thank you for the help..........one more question ...i was stupid and listened to my supplier so i have already ran deca with the sus on my first cycle .....will this have any effect or downfall if i dont run it in second cycle ??

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    I would suggest you run your 1st cycle again if you did well.This is overkill!

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