Rate it fellas, muchas gracias!

[Budly69]

Ok here we go with cycle #4... the last one worked wonders so this one is fairly similar.

27 years old (28 in a month)
6'7"
245 lbs
Approx 14% bf
Been lifting a decade
Looking to drop some excess body fat, preserve as much muscle as possible etc so here\/ it is.

Weeks 1-5 Dbol(keep reading) 50mg/ed
Weeks 6-12 Winny 50mg/ed
Weeks 1-12 Test Prop, Tren Ace, Mast Prop 150mg/eod
Weeks 1-12 Arimidex .5mg/eod
Weeks 1-12 Prami .5mg/ed(bedtime)

PCT
hCG 500iu/ed first 8 days
Week 2&3-Nolva 40mg/Ed
Week 4&5-Nolva 20 mg/ed

I will be running 66mcg of T3 for weeks 1-11 and a cycling on and off clen until I start the PCT.

I want to explain myself on the Dbol... First of all I got it for free from a buddy of mine so I figured I could put it to use "jump starting" my cycle. I know it's normally not used for cutting cycles but I figure the dex could keep the water weight at a minimum and I'd get some decent early gains. The following switch to Winny should dry me out anyway right?

On top of tips on my cycle I'm also curious if anybody has any decent tips on prevent back acne and chest acne? I don't get it too bad but worse than I did before the last cycle which is similar to the above one minus the Dbol. It's not a real nuisance but I don't like the idea of a chick dragging her nails across a pimple whilst in mid coitous.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I would choose either the Dbol OR Winny. 12 weeks on an oral is just way to much IMO.

Seeing as you want to lean up I would go with your Winny. Just because you get the Dbol for free doesn't meen you should just use it. Save it, use it for another cycle rather then bashing your liver and risking health issues.

Everything else looks good and if you have run those compounds before you know what to expect.

Nice stats by the way, hopefully you're not like the last 4 threads and actually have those stats lol.

[Budly69]

I guess I never considered that kind of timeline on orals... Anything else?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I guess I never considered that kind of timeline on orals... Anything else?

I don't have much else input, some other members might have some different outlooks or inputs though. Just make sure your diet is dialed down and on point and this cycle should do you well.

What are you dosing your clen at?

[Budly69]

Probably just 50 for the first few days then try a bump to 100 for the rest of the cycle. I tried running a full go of 100mg clen and coupled with tren I was miserable so I kept it dialed down until I was off the tren.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

Probably just 50 for the first few days then try a bump to 100 for the rest of the cycle. I tried running a full go of 100mg clen and coupled with tren I was miserable so I kept it dialed down until I was off the tren.

I can only imagine lol.

I wouldn't exceed 100mcg, not necessary with everything else you are running.

[BBJT200]

Yeah, drop th dbol and save it. Your liver Will thank you. Not to mention any extra bloating on it is estrogen, which will hinder fat loss in your midsection.

And 66mcg clen is fine. More isn't necessarily better

...Unless you like feeling like a furnace.
I personally like high doses of stims/thermogenic as long as I stay hydrated.

Try albuterol Instead of clen. Its short acting and has a lot less sides. In my case, I'm running so much shit and stims right now I have a 155bpm heartrate walking 3mph at no incline

(Currently Transitioning from 350 tren ace to 525mg/week, 1g test, 525mg mast prop, 20mg albuterol(w/ 2mg keto ed)+100mcg t3/day)
Nolva and letrozole daily.
(This Is for an aggressive 4wk cut/recomp for my job)

I can do my cardio with out the albuterol, then dose it after I'm done. Otherwise I have to hold back in cardio.

I feel like albuterol makes me feel better whereas clen made me feel horrible.

Hell, trade your dbol for some t3 and you'll benefit a lot more from that

[BBJT200]

Oh shoot nevermind, didn't see you said you were using t3.