gear advice

[nsgerman]

I am180lbs looking to put on about 20lbs of lean muscle and cut body fat at the same time. Pro advice needed..

[BBJT200]

stats?
height, years of training?
how many cycles and of what have you done?

[Gaspaco]

[AD]

bro, that pic is your trademark post isn't it?

[Gaspaco]

bro, that pic is your trademark post isn't it?

lol

[stillernation]

That pic is more accurate at self diagnosing than the piece of sh*t i bought off amazon. Told me I was 12% bf,hell I wish.

[ChiveOn]

Ya those electronic ones suck. And your gains are largely diet dependent

[nsgerman]

stats?
height, years of training?
how many cycles and of what have you done?

6'2 have trained for a little under seven years.
About three years ago I had a friend give me some deca and winning-v .and was only a month supply.after doing some research I don't think that was the right gear to start with?

[Provita]

How old are you?

[armyranger516862006]

No it's not the right ones to start with. You should start with Test as a base ALWAYS for the first cycle. Make sure you have all you need before you began anything (Test, AI, HCG) PCT (Nolva or Clomid) either one because you only need one compound, for just a basic beginner cycle.

Test E at 500mg 1-12 weeks
HCG 500iu twice a week 2-12 weeks
AI Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD throughout whole cycle not PCT
PCT Nolva at 40/40/20/20 starting seccond week after last Test pin.

[nsgerman]

Thanks everyone

[Provita]

No it's not the right ones to start with. You should start with Test as a base ALWAYS for the first cycle. Make sure you have all you need before you began anything (Test, AI, HCG) PCT (Nolva or Clomid) either one because you only need one compound, for just a basic beginner cycle.

Test E at 500mg 1-12 weeks
HCG 500iu twice a week 2-12 weeks
AI Arimidex at 0.5mg EOD throughout whole cycle not PCT
PCT Nolva at 40/40/20/20 starting seccond week after last Test pin.

No, not right...
HCG 250iu twice per week from week 1-14.5
Arimidex 0.25mg eod or if you are sensitive to e2 0.5mg eod
Pct should have nolva and clomid.

Before you go ahead bro, how old are you? Lets see if we can help you the right way...

[johnnymctrance]

No, not right...
HCG 250iu twice per week from week 1-14.5
Arimidex 0.25mg eod or if you are sensitive to e2 0.5mg eod
Pct should have nolva and clomid.

Before you go ahead bro, how old are you? Lets see if we can help you the right way...

I agree with this!!

[BBJT200]

I agree with this!!

seconded

[nsgerman]

I am 20yr

[Provita]

I am 20yr

You have enough free test running in your body to get great results naturally.


Read these links:

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

[Provita]

How is your diet looking?

[Sfla80]

I am 20yr

This is why we wait to give him advise until we are provided with an age.

[Provita]

This is why we wait to give him advise until we are provided with an age.

My frustration as well...

[nsgerman]

You know my diet is good I am following this guide I have found to build muscle and strength it is 3156 calories a day I run to the gym and hit the tread mill between sets to keep a heavy sweat cause I want to burn the fat off while building g solid lean muscle mass

[Provita]

You know my diet is good I am following this guide I have found to build muscle and strength it is 3156 calories a day I run to the gym and hit the tread mill between sets to keep a heavy sweat cause I want to burn the fat off while building g solid lean muscle mass

Macro split?

Thats a lot of cardio. May I suggest you do lifting and cardio at different times... Ether you build muscle (anabolic), or burn fat (catabolic). You can't do both at exactly the same time.

[nsgerman]

Would you say this is why I am staying right around 180 and not seeing good gains

[Provita]

I think so. Can be other factors as well. Like diet. But with the info you gave so far, i would say it is.

[Provita]

AAS will not help you with this situation. At 20 you have enough test in your body. You just have to utilize it in the right way. When you lift, lift hard. When you do cardio, go all out. But do not do them at the same time.

I'm all for increasing LBM and lowering BF%. That can be the net result of a week of training. But both can not happen in one day at the same time. Head over to the nutrition forum. Read the stickies and post your diet if you like. Those guys will take good care of you.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UUtu8_oazTo

[MartyMcFly]

6'2 have trained for a little under seven years.
About three years ago I had a friend give me some deca and winning-v .and was only a month supply.after doing some research I don't think that was the right gear to start with?

I agree. I'd go to a doctor and get bloods run. Make sure it didn't do any long term damage to ya.